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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-09-26 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #2459 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2459 ⌋

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(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-26 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
'If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.'

Nope.

'I'm not sexually attracted to men with vaginas/women with penises, am I transphobic?' I've heard this one a lot, and the answer would be a resounding nope, not unless there's more to it than that.

(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-26 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
A hard this. Would you stop being someone's friend/family member if they were trans*? Then you're transphobic. Are you transphobic if you aren't physically turned on by someone with a certain type of genitalia No. Not even close.

It always annoys me when people say "it shouldn't matter!". But these things DO matter when it comes to sex. And at the end of the day, a trans* pre-operation still has the bits of the gender they were born with, and this should never be a surprise to someone you are going to be having sex with.
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(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-09-26 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah it shouldn't matter that you aren't turned on by black people, but you aren't and so need a warning for black people passing as white (and yeah, sadly that was a thing back in the day with very pale colored folks deciding to pretend they were white and some getting bashed for it if a partner discovered the person they were sleeping with wasn't pure). The same justification you just used over the transfolks was used almost word for word for pale-passing coloreds and why they should disclose themselves.

Yeah it doesn't matter about gay or transguys, and if you have a problem about it, then you are phobic and have a problem. Seek help until it no longer matters.

(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-26 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Someone being a certain race=/=someone wants to be the gender they weren't born with. It's not phobic to not want to sleep with a guy who has a vagina. Because that trans* man is a woman when it comes to sex, because all of his bits are female.
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(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-09-26 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, you kinda are a bit. You are reducing a person to their genitals and worse, reducing the other person to how your cheese ridden genitalia reacts to their genitals. That is several different kinds of degrading and one of those kinds is transphobia.

(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-26 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
If a gay man says "I am not attracted to women," is he degrading them?
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(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-09-26 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
Nice strawman, try again.

(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-26 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
'You are reducing a person to their genitals and worse, reducing the other person to how your cheese ridden genitalia reacts to their genitals.'

No strawman I see here, I only see exactly what you said.

(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-26 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
LOl. You're trans* and someone refused to sleep with you, right? Sorry hun, but if all that person did was not want to sleep with you, they aren't transphobic. Maybe you should look at your own insecurities before you try to shame someone for turning you down. No one owes you sex just because you're trans*

(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-26 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry to say, but sex does come down to genitals. I'm sorry it makes you butthurt that a man may not want to sleep with a man that also has a vagina, but that's how it is. And if you want to believe that's 'transphobic', then well, that trans* person can just go find someone else to sleep with and get over it.

(frozen comment) Re: If you actually need to ask "is this 'whatever'phobic?" the answer is always yes.

(Anonymous) 2013-09-26 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"cheese ridden genitalia"

Careful, you're in "trying too hard" territory again.