[ SECRET POST #2466 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2466 ⌋

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Notes:

Late day at work, sorry.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I hate these kind of secrets and the people who write them. Fic world isn't a world where everyone magically speaks perfect accentless English regardless of origin, ethnicity or whether it's their first language you fucking racist.

[(Anonymous)]

writing accents out phonetically actually comes off as more racist most of the time. you can make it clear that a character has a thick accent without actually spelling it out. I'm scottish and it bugs the ever living shit out of me when people over dramatically spell how they think a scottish accent sounds in fic. it's just fucking goofy

[(Anonymous)]

This.

It is what tag-lines are for. Say that a character speaks with an accent, don't fucking spell it out. It is not only hard to read, depending on the thickness of an accent, but I find written-out accents to be highly offensive as well.

How would you like to see speakers of your language othered and made fun of in that way?

[(Anonymous)]

I'm Scottish as well, and while I don't write accents phonetically, if it's a particularly thick accent like Glaswegian or Dundonian I do try to convey the accent in the text without making it too obtrusive. It bugs me reading "so and so said in their thick Scottish accent' if what was said was in plain English, it just seems lazy to me. *shrug* Different strokes I guess.

[(Anonymous)]

na

apparently you don't type out your comments phonetically, but I have no problem accepting the fact that you're Scottish

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, but commenting on a post isn't exactly writing a story, it's not supposed to be immersive. If this was a voice post, I'd have an accent.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a question, how would you transcribe 'gonnae no dae that' if you don't like seeing Scottish accents written out? Would you change it to 'don't do that'? And if it's racist for someone Scottish to say that, I must be an offensive stereotype.

[(Anonymous)]

there's a difference between dialects and/or variants (includes special vocabulary) and accents (phonetic differences only)

[poisonenvy]

I dunno, when fic/novels are written with accents phonetically, I 99% of the time have to read the dialogue aloud (sometimes more than once) to figure out what people are saying. There's nothing worse than sitting somewhere in public going: "It be all fool-talk, lock, stock, and barrel, that's what it be and nowt else. These bans an' wafts an' boh-ghosts an' bar-guests an' bogles an' all anent them is only fit to set bairns an' dizzy women a'belderin'. They be nowt but air-blebs. They, an' all grims an' signs an' warnin's, be all invented by parsons an' illsome berk-bodies an' railway touters to skeer an' scunner hafflin's, an' to get folks to do somethin' that they don't other incline to. It makes me ireful to think o' them. Why, it's them that, not content with printin' lies on paper an' preachin' them ou t of pulpits, does want to be cuttin' them on the tombstones. Look here all around you in what airt ye will."

[(Anonymous)]

You can still use vocabulary, sentence construction and all other kind of things to convey how someone speaks without butchering every word. The standard spelling does not imply standard pronunciation.