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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-05 03:37 pm

[ SECRET POST #2468 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2468 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2013-10-05 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
My attitude toward the Reboot movies is they are NOT Star Trek, thank you very much, they are more like glorified fanfic - made by someone who's not a fan, just into making a profit off a popular franchise - and that said, they are reasonably entertaining popcorn flicks.

So I didn't mind that scene in the movie itself, so much. It was eye-rollingly bad, but then it was over and we could move on.

My beef is with the constant rehashing of the scene with gif sets etc. on Tumblr. OK, I get it, some people find the scene actually meaningful and that's okay. But by now it's like a pop song that's a fairly decent song and you liked it okay the first time you heard it, but then it went into heavy rotation and now you fucking detest it with every last shred of your soul.

That's how I feel about that scene now.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-10-06 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
The reboot movies aren't Star Trek, they're what popular culture likes to think of Star Trek as. JJ Abrams himself said he didn't really like Star Trek as a kid - while he was okay with it to make the movie, he really disliked how "slow" and philosophical it is.

He seemed to miss the fact that "slow and philosophical" was kind of the point. Star Wars was a space drama, Star Trek was a drama set in space. There is a reason why there is a lot of division between these two franchises, which in turn are entirely separate for a reason.
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[personal profile] duaedesigns 2013-10-06 12:49 pm (UTC)(link)
There's also the fact that Star Trek was never a Hero's Journey. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monomyth

It was about people who encountered extraordinary things in their job. By taking that away and making it into a Hero's Journey it removes the heart of it in a way that makes a lot of fans go "This doesn't have the same feel..." without realizing right away that it's because the entire narrative structure has changed.
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[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-10-06 05:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not sure whether to hope Abrams just ignored this narrative structural difference or if he missed it entirely. I'm not sure which possibility would be worse, either. D:

(Anonymous) 2013-10-07 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
the problem with that scene is that they spoiled it with the japanese trailer back in december so people are giffing it since then
the hands on the glass got old and boring before the movie was even released (that person going batshit insane just to prove that the hands were Kirk and Spock @_@)