[ SECRET POST #2476 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2476 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

If it's the best site, how come I get over five times of comments per fic on FFN versus what I get on AO3? And it's not because there are better writers, my fandom's pretty tiny.

[(Anonymous)]

If I had to guess, I'm going to say it's the "kudos" button. Much easier to hit the button to say you liked a fic than to come up with a comment.

[silverr]

Eh, kudos on Ao3 are the same as Favorites on FF.net.

I post most of what I write in both places, and I've never been able to come up with a reason for the patterns in the the hits/kudos/comments. Yuletide fics aside, stuff on FFnet gets more hits, with a lower percentange of feedback, but what feedback I do get is split between reviews and favorites. I get fewer hits overall on Ao3, but the feedback percentage is higher — and yet it's 90% kudos.

The only theory I have is that FFnet gets people who have been in fandom longer, those who predate FB/tumblr; perhaps they're inclined to write an actual review. Conversely, maybe Ao3 has a lot of newer fans who think a Facebook/tumbler "thumbs'-up" is sufficient.

[(Anonymous)]

That's actually a pretty good explanation. I'm inclined to agree.

[(Anonymous)]

FFnet gets people who have been in fandom longer

Huh, my experience is the exact opposite, or it was about 5 years ago before I stopped posting on FF.net. Seems like every other reviewer was new to fandom, couldn't spell, and was somewhere in their early teens.

[silverr]

Yeah, I was just theorizing based on my own experience and the fandoms I've been in.

I started on FFnet in late 2002, and the only fact is that before 2008 or so I used to get a LOT more reviews per story. I have no way of knowing if the decline in reviews is due to my moving to other fandoms, because I began to write shit (I don't think I did, but I'm hardly objective), because the pool of potential readers changed, or because of an entirely random neutrino event.

[truxillogical]

Yeah, I'd say the comments on AO3 (that I've seen) tend to be a little...better(?) than the ones on ffn. Not, y'know, universally, but ff.n always seemed to have way more teenybopper to it.

[(Anonymous)]

a lot of those early teens grew up and got used to the ff.net style of commenting, so even if the older users are only 17/18/19 now they're still used to the commenting style of feedback

at least that's been my experience (as a early teen who wrote poorly spelt reviews on ff.net five years ago)

[(Anonymous)]

This. The majority of AO3 seems to prefer giving Kudos rather than taking the trouble to type out a review. That's wonderfully convenient from a reader's point of view, but speaking as a writer I'm not feeling it.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

It's better than a reader looking at the review box and thinking "Ehh... Don't wanna." . At least you get something with kudos, even if it's not much.

[(Anonymous)]

I love kudos as an author, because I hate replying to comments even though I like feedback. It's pretty win/win for me.

[deadtree]

because most people leave kudos instead of saying "I liked this"

[(Anonymous)]

I've found it varies with fandom.

Anime fandoms and non-comics films fandoms get way more comments on FFN, stuff like Dr Who and Marvelverse more on AO3. YMMV.

[(Anonymous)]

This. I post on both and get way more feedback on FFN than I ever do on AO3.

[(Anonymous)]

I like the conceit in this comment that the best archive is the one where your fic gets the most comments. Just a passing anon, amused.