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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-13 03:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #2476 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2476 ⌋

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Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
The act. I get the whole not voting on budget and now the government shut down thing. I just don't get why this thing is so controversial that things would get to this point over it.
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Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
So it's not even about a controversial act that may be harmful to citizens, it's 100% politics, and obamacare Obamacare is just an excuse? Also, what is it anyway?

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
It's an act that would make health insurance more affordable and easier for lower-income people to get.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
Sorry, I deleted and reposted anon because I remembered the last time I got political on here.

Obamacare is really just an attempt to improve the quality and availability of healthcare for American citizens, even the ones with pre-existing conditions. All it does is require you to purchase insurance, whether from a qualifying private insurance company or off the exchange, or to pay a fine every year if you are uninsured.

Interestingly most of the same voters who claim to despise Obamacare don't actually know what it is or what it entails and are in support of "the Affordable Care Act" when shown it -- even though it is literally the same thing.

http://www.businessinsider.com/why-republicans-hate-obamacare-2013-10

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Obamacare is a health plan which would allow poor workers to get access to healthcare. The Republicans are screaming to high heavens about that, as if Mitt Romney hadn't done something to this effect in his own state. They're refusing federal money because they value opposing Obama over the lives of their own constituents. Priorities.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
I think you might be looking for a mature, rational explanation that just isn't there.

I honestly do not think the Republicans are responding to this in the context of how it would affect the country, I'm not even sure they've considered it at any point, but how it would affect their party's narrative and voter base. I also believe there is a great deal of pressure on them from the insurance and medical industries contributed to their campaigns.

"We're not going to be disrespected, We have to get something out of this. And I don't know what that even is."
-- Rep. Marlin Stutzman (R-IN), quoted by the Washington Examiner, on the government shutdown.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Short answer is that many white, male, wealthy Republicans, who happen to make up most of Congress, are angry that a black man is in a position of power. They are afraid of being treated the way they have historically treated others. They also don't value the lives of the poor.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I would love, love, love to say this is an oversimplification of the Republican party's stance but... When elected officials (from the same party that insisted you could dislike Bush all you wanted but should never disrespect the decisions he made while in office) tell the President of the United States to sit down and shut up, shout out that he is a liar while he is making an official speech, compare him to Hitler and Chavez, claim he is a more serious threat to America than Al-Qaeda, continually question his citizenship, smear his character at every measly chance, and repeatedly accuse him of being friends with gangsters, thugs, and terrorists in plain view of the press with no hint of shame? I don't see what other conclusion you can come to.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt - I was trying to come up with a more unbiased way of saying it and I know that not all republicans think that way. I'm sure it's possible that there a few people out there who have valid reasons for disagreeing with affordable care and can make a solid argument. I'm definitely not one of those people who think that everyone who disagrees with Obama is racist. But yeah, these ARE things that are going on and we shouldn't pretend they don't exist.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say it's pretty spot on. Though, I do remember when tumblr was exploding with "OMG OBAMA WON WHITES ARE GOING TO RIOT IN THE STREETS AND KILL ALL THE MINORITIES THEY SEE STAY INDOORS", and no one rioted. So, maybe it's a little yes and a little no.

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
Rich white people don't riot. They pay people to convince poor people to do it for them.
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Re: Obamacare

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-10-14 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
Really? That sounds kind of like the Clinton years

Re: Obamacare

(Anonymous) 2013-10-14 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah well all I cared about in the Clinton years was pogs and tweetie bird t-shirts from walmart. *spits fruit stripe gum*