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So awhile back I got into an arguement with somebody here about whether or not Aurora and Mulan were still a viable possibility on Once Upon a Time, and now that Mulan has canon feelings for Aurora I'd just like to say an "I told you so" to that person

So, if you are that person, I told you so.

I'm not that person, but what do you think is going to happen with Mulan and Aurora now?

I felt so bad for Mulan and thought the whole "I'm pregnant" shtick was a bit old and a cop out. But I like Aurora and her prince as well, so idk.

Do you think Mulan and Aurora still have a chance? Or that the ship has sailed and we can only hope Shang is a awesome and possibly a woman?

When I was little and first watched Mulan I was convinced for five minutes there was going to be a plot twist and Shang would be revealed as another dutiful daughter.

That would have been amazing!

(And on a tangentially-related topic: have you read Terry Pratchett's Monstrous Regiment?)

No, I don't think I've gotten that far in the discworld series.

That would have been an awesome twist! I accept your younger selves headcanon.

Edited 2013-10-20 23:44 (UTC)

That would have been an awesome twist. NEEDS FIC.

I don't honestly know. I mean, Philip is a king, so which of the 20 or so residents left in the enchanted forest are really gonna tell him "no" when he decides to have two queens? Or let his queen have her own queen?

I wasn't terribly interested until I realized
1. This wank was going on, and
2. The spinoff has HOT JAFAR (and inexplicably not Middle Eastern genie? Whatever. HOT JAFAR)

All I know about it is
1. Disney Princesses
2. Noodle complains about Fable being better every time the show is mentioned

Fables is better, if only because it doesn't have to wink at Disney Princesses(tm) all the time.

I don't think it's anything too special, but if you like the idea of a fairy tale pastiche it's a pretty good one.

As for comparing it to Fables, I don't think they have a whole lot in common, personally. Fables is trying to much more serious than OUaT is. I personally prefer my shows with a bit of cheese.

I trudged through the first season and part of the second and it's pretty abysmal. The cg is painful on the eyes and the acting can be laughable.

People keep in going on about the chemistry between Regina and Emma and I'm not fucking seeing it, there's zero chemistry going on between most characters in this show

I think the best actor ATM are the actors playing Hook and Peter Pan and Robert Carlyle

I don't see the chemistry either, tbh. Emma doesn't have chemistry with anyone on this show imo.

it's pretty damn terrible.

Fables was better for the first eight volumes or so, but it is now rapidly going off the tracks. I'm waiting for the next compilation issue in December to make a final judgement, but the story has gone completely weird. It probably should have ended with the Snow/Bigby thing, but that's the problem with comic books--they never end when they should.

It has a decent concept. First season is enjoyable if strangely-paced. Second season starts off pretty strong... and then derails. Horribly. The only reason I made it to the last season finale was the livestream group I was watching it with.

It's like they didn't know where they wanted to go with the story, so the writers kept throwing out new characters and new plot threads like it's no tomorrow. Meanwhile existing characters get shafted (or even completely dropped) and don't even get me started on the mess that is the Evil Queen's development(?) arc.

'they didn't know where they wanted to go with the story"--actually, they knew. They wanted to go to Neverland. Owing to the weird copyright issues surrounding Peter Pan, they couldn't actually do that. Then, midseason, they got the rights, resulting in horrible-even-for-OUAT plot and character derailment when they ditched the holding-pattern they'd kept the show in until they knew if they'd get them. Disney and the Great Ormond Street Hospital are, I think, still having ongoing spats about Peter Pan, leading to things like the only authorized Peter Pan sequel, Peter Pan in Scarlet, going head to head with Dave Barrie's Disney-movie based Peter and the Starcatchers and losing horribly. As for the character development sucking, I think they're afraid of the big villains actually getting redemption too early, so they make Regina especially look insane. She keeps doing the same awful shit and expecting different results. And the show started as Disneyfied fairy tales+soap operas. I still love it because I love cheese, but yeah, I don't know how they're going to stretch it out long enough to have syndication rights.

fuck missed an italic tag oh well

Ugh, stuff like this - and having to deal with actor availability shit - is why I never want to develop for television.

(Also, no worries about the italic tag.)

If it was about copyright reasons, then why did they have Captain Hook Sparrow so early in the season?

I'm not really sure how they managed that. They were definitely planning to bring Hook in even as far back as right after season 1 wrapped-- they showed a sneak-peek of Hook at Comic-Con that summer. But for one thing they've said they wanted Jack Sparrow on the show, but wouldn't do it unless Johnny Depp agreed to a cameo. For another--Hook looks and acts nothing like book or even Disney-movie Hook. He's got a different name and different backstory. I think that's for more than the usual fairy-tale kitchen sink reasons. So long as they didn't show Neverland, or Pan, or Hook in a red velvet coat looking like a clone of Charles II, I think they could get away with references so long as they didn't actually set anything there. Or they may have been testing the waters to see how much they could get away with. Technically, any performance of the play Peter Pan is supposed to kick back royalties to the Great Ormond St. Hospital as long as the UK exists. I'm not sure how references or re-imaginings are dealt with, just that Disney and the Hospital's lawyers have spats about it occasionally, because, surprise surprise, Disney didn't get permission or give any money when they made the animated version, and they argue that all the merchandise and spin-offs that spring from that are Disney property. But as far as characterization goes, OUAT's version of Pan is the closest I've ever seen to the book outside the book itself.

waaaaaait wait wait they canonized a lesbian relationship on OUaT? ...like, honest-to-god? Holy shit :o

Not a relationship, but Mulan is definitely interested in Aurora romantically.

whoawhoawhowaitwhaithwt

You telling me this show has ~~at least~~ a lady craving another lady especially one called Mulan for Aurora???

Thanks dude. I'm getting back into this show because now it is less full of suck and that's good enough for me ♥

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