[ SECRET POST #2488 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2488 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Dramatical Murder]


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Comments

[fscom]

02. http://i.imgur.com/kjqmeeB.png

[(Anonymous)]

'tragic' is going a little far imho

[(Anonymous)]

http://books.google.com/books?id=kouXUFhmodEC&pg=PA192#v=onepage&q&f=false

[(Anonymous)]

Well, if he were the subject of a Shakespearean play, it would definitely be a tragedy!

I feel like you can describe someone's story as tragic even if they brought it on themselves and/or inflicted it on everyone around them. Presumably he didn't start out with the life goal of becoming one of the most horrifying mass murderers of all time, so that's... sort of a tragedy? Narratively speaking.

[(Anonymous)]

He was a tragic waste of space. A tragic excuse for a human being. Tragic that the only thing he was good at was killing people and putting them away, which - tragically - probably left him with no friends. Boo hoo.

[(Anonymous)]

People who unironically stan for Stalin creep me out. The guy killed millions more than Hitler did but because he was our ally people somehow see him as less than a complete monster.

[(Anonymous)]

He was our ally for only as long as WWII went on. The moment it ended, he was our Cold War enemy.

[(Anonymous)]

You also fail to see your own ancestors as complete monsters even though they were involved in a Holocaust bigger than the one of the Nazis.

[(Anonymous)]

this secret rubs me the wrong way all around, especially the use of the word tragic, yikes.
I want to give you the benefit of the doubt, but yeah, the phrasing of this is fucked up

Three Real-Life Stories Related to Stalin

[(Anonymous)]

1. My grandmother had a friend whose whole life was ruined after the war because she'd been in a romance with a German invader and then abandoned. She had nowhere to go, and ultimately her super-religious friend took her in. The late night they announced Stalin's death, the super-religious friend woke her up with the words, "Lena, get up and pray*. The dog is dead."

*As in, rejoice and thank the lord.

2. Had Stalin not died exactly when he did, an enormous amount of Jews would have been deported and essentially wiped out. My father was three at the time and would not have survived the trip to Siberia, being a weak and sickly child. That his death coincided with Purim does not seem random.

3. In a big USSR city, there was a huge statue of Stalin. Then somebody snuck around and splashed it/sprinkled it with catnip. And the statue then spent several days with every cat in the city acting indecent around it. Then they posted a guard for the statue. I imagine the locals had a lot of fun pulling it down if it lasted until the country started falling apart.

/anecdotes.

Re: Three Real-Life Stories Related to Stalin

[(Anonymous)]

Lol the last one is hilarious. I'm just imagining a bunch of cats attacking it.

Re: Three Real-Life Stories Related to Stalin

[(Anonymous)]

They had to electrify another statue of his because the pigeons kept pooping on it.

Re: Three Real-Life Stories Related to Stalin

[(Anonymous)]

Can you elaborate on the second one? My Russian history knowledge is weak.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel bad for his family. He beat his wife and refused to trade for his son when he was held prisoner, so his son committed suicide. Apparently the son tried shooting himself before and Stalin mocked him for having poor aim when he failed.

Stalin-era Russian jokes

[(Anonymous)]

To the best of my knowledge, these are all genuine. I heard them at a history honors presentation.


The teacher is reading her students a poem by Ivan Krylov: "Éand God sent the crow a bit of cheese." One student asks, "Is there really a God?" Another asks, "Is there really cheese?"

A group of old friends gather. They all know each other's jokes so well, they have numbered them. "#41!" Laughter. "#19!" Laughter. An uninitiated newcomer joins the evening. He doesn't want to feel left out, so he tries, "#35!" Everyone practically jumps out of their chairs. One points to the wall, another to the ceilin, a third to the telephone.

The deceased Lenin appeared in a dream to Stalin and asked, "How are things?" Stalin replied, "All right, things are difficult, but the people follow me." "You'd better give them a little more bread or they'll all wind up following me."

Stalin's pipe goes missing. Beria begins an investigation. By the end of the day he has arrested a hundred people. The next morning the cleaning lady finds the pipe under Stalin's couch. Stalin phones Beria: "Don't work so hard, Lavrenty. The pipe turned up." Beria replied: "Ok, but what should I do with the prisoners? Ninety-nine already confessed." "One didn't confess?! Better continue the investigation."

At the time of the Stalinist Terror, a family was awakened late at night by a lound pounding on the door. Everyone jumped out of bed, terrified. "Take all your belongings with you!" shouted a voice from outside. "For God's sake, don't be alarmed! It's only me, your next-door neighbor! Don't panic, I've only come to tell you a thing of minor importance: your house is burning down!"

During one of his speeches, Stalin remarked: "I am prepared to give my blood for the cause of the working class--drop by drop!" A note was passed up to the podium which read: "Dear Comrade Stalin, why drag things out? Give it all at once!"

An old woman ran to catch the city bus. "Thank God!" she sighed, having made it. A citizen sitting next to her said: "You expressed that improperly, auntie. You should know that there is no God. You should have said 'Thank Stalin.'" "You're right, son, you're right," said the old woman in agreement. "Excuse me, I'm a little behind the times." But after thinking a while, the old woman asked: "God forbid this should happen, but what am I supposed to say if Stalin should die?" "In that case, perhaps you may say 'Thank God.'"

A man is standing in the Stalin museum in front of a portrait of Josef Stalin's mother. He shakes his head in grief and sorrow and heaves forth a sigh: "Ay, ay, ay! Such a lovely lady. It's a pity she didn't get that abortion in time!"

Rabinovich appeared at an Octoberdemonstration with a sign: "Thank you Comrade Stalin for my happy childhood." The party organizer runs up to him. "What are you trying to do? You're an old man! When you were a child, Stalin wasn't even born yet!" "Yes, and for that I thank him."

Every morning Rabinovich picks up a copy of Pravda at the newspaper kiosk, looks at the front page, and returns to paper. After several days, the vendor asks him what he is ooking for. "An obituary." "The obituaries are on the last page." "The one I'm waiting for will be on the front."

[(Anonymous)]

you sound like one of those people that stan serial killers.

[(Anonymous)]

His daughter's expression is creeping me out.

[(Anonymous)]

I was so confused by everything in this thread and wondering exactly how hard I'd slept through history class. And then it dawned on me that my brain was trying to replace 'Stalin' with 'Mussolini.' My complete failure with names strikes again.

[iggy]

Wow Stalin so tragic!!

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, what?
Stalin gets to be tragic now? :x

[quantumreality]

I liked the 1992 movie with Robert Duvall, but Stalin was always kind of a greyish guy to begin with. He wasn't flashy like Hitler speechifying on every corner in Germany; he built himself up within the growing bureaucracy of the Soviet Union in the 1920s, which is decidedly low-publicity indeed.

That said I've seen Youtube pastiches of the surviving footage of his WW2 speech.

[ladyguinevere83.livejournal.com]

Tragic isn't the word I would use for him, but I agree with the complex relationships with his family. There's plenty to make a decent film out of, but post-revolution he's unlikely to be sympathetic, though he was good to his servants (I would cite sources, but I haven't the time to hunt it out). Before perhaps though.

[(Anonymous)]

Hold up. Downfall wasn't meant to portray Hitler as a tragic figure, it was meant to portray him in three dimensions, not as a caricature.

I'd be all over a three dimensional portrayal of Stalin, or Mao, but neither of those two are tragic. Tragic to me implies that they were not the self-aware creatures that they were, ultimately responsible for all the tragedy that befell others in their wake, while working in systems that fostered that level of brutality.

I mean, look. Russia's still pretty damn brutal (100% "observation" of people in Sochi for the Olympics, anyone?), and China's still got the autocracy thing going on. They were telling Hong Kong that they couldn't hold public nominations for...something, I'd have to go find the article again. The point is...well, there's a line between sympathizing and objectivity.

[(Anonymous)]

I'd be all up for something on the 'first-generation' of Bolsheviks, tbh - Lenin, Trotsky, etc.- only because they were far more interesting. Like, something showing the actual revolution - we have enough WWII things out there, methinks.

[(Anonymous)]

and now we have f!s on such a sad subject. (
*judging OP so hard*

btw even in his death he killed many people as there was a stampede during the funeral... Argh, it's a terrible topic all around!