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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-10-27 03:22 pm

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fucking jezebel

(Anonymous) 2013-10-28 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
reading an article

and a stirng of people start going on about how most shoplifters are white middleclass women because my anecdata

http://jezebel.com/not-to-be-out-bigoted-macy-s-joins-barneys-in-profilin-1452932267

how can you post this complete nonsense and then try to take yourself seriously

shit like this is half the reason i find it so difficult to take a lot of feminist groups seriously

because theyre completely detached from reality

Re: fucking jezebel

(Anonymous) 2013-10-28 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
So are you upset at the article, jezebel, or the commenters? And how does it connect to not taking feminist groups seriously?

Re: fucking jezebel

(Anonymous) 2013-10-28 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
that sounds like a terrible 99 cent ebook title

Re: fucking jezebel

(Anonymous) 2013-10-28 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
I would read that book. Love me some terrible 99 cent ebooks.

Re: fucking jezebel

(Anonymous) 2013-10-28 02:31 am (UTC)(link)
Gotta love anecdata. I worked retail for years and our most common shoplifters were teenage to mid-20s black women with babies. (One once said to my manager, who was following her around, "You must think all black people are thieves" and my manager replied "No, just you." And I'll note in this case the lady really was stealing, one of my co-workers -- who was also a black woman, btw -- had seen her do it.) Though honestly, if we're talking anecdata in general it just points to not just black women but women in general. We had a couple men steal -- they were the bold thieves who would just put a bunch of stuff in a cart and run straight out the door -- but the vast majority of the thieves were women, of all colors. I specifically remember one well-dressed Asian lady stealing a lot because I was coming in to work and bringing in a shopping cart from the parking lot and she asked me if she could use it, and then a half hour later walked straight out the door with the cart full of clothes.

Re: fucking jezebel

(Anonymous) 2013-10-28 04:01 am (UTC)(link)
Bingo. I think the funniest shoplifting story I have was from a white guy who had switched the tags on a jacket. I guessing one of the secret security guys saw him, because my ZSM came to me and told me not to ring up the coat, but to type in its pin number on the tag. He made up a million excuses and ran out of the store.

Other than that, yeah, it was mostly women stealing. We had a high rate of Asian women who stole, but the area had a high Asian population, so I think that's why.

Re: fucking jezebel

(Anonymous) 2013-10-28 04:40 am (UTC)(link)
http://news.ufl.edu/2005/08/10/shoplifters/

“The rule of thumb always has been that women shoplift more than men simply because there are more women shoppers, unless it’s a sporting goods store or a hardware store,” he said. “But we were able to determine that men actually stole more often than women.”

Overall, blacks and Hispanics were no more likely than whites to steal merchandise

Perhaps you only noticed the brazenly shoplifting men, while there were many men shoplifting who just plain got away with it because you were fixated on observing the women due to tired old stereotypes that don't actually fit statistical data on shoplifting demographics. Imagine how many white dudes were able to pocket merchandise because your manager was hovering over black women all the time.

pantswarrior: Yeoman Rand smiles and secretly despises everyone. (retail)

Re: fucking jezebel

[personal profile] pantswarrior 2013-10-28 04:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I once encountered this guy who brought to the register a toy that had a clearance sticker on it with the wrong price, and a big enough difference that we couldn't honor the difference ($5 limit). So I offered him $5 off the real price, as is our policy, and apologized for the wrong price tag being placed on the item (with the name of a different item ON the tag, mind you, so looking at the price tag made it clear it was not meant to be on that item) and he started freaking out at me, saying I was accusing him of switching price tags. Because he was black. I assured him that I was doing no such thing, and honestly suspected one of my (white, extremely lazy) coworkers had put the wrong tag on it by mistake. He insisted I was accusing him, and wanted to talk to my manager.

So my manager comes over. White guy. Hears the customer's case, tells him exactly the same thing I told him - he can have $5 off the actual price of the item. Customer freaks out again, says we're BOTH accusing him of price tag switching because he's black. Wants to talk to the store manager in charge. My manager is like "Okay!" and makes the call.

Store manager in charge shows up. Happens to be a black woman. Doesn't even offer him the $5 off - the actual price is the actual price and that's that. Dude suddenly has no more complaints. ;)

In my department it was mostly white 20-something guys stealing or trying, because either it was credit card fraud involving XBox systems or people opening and emptying packs of Yu-Gi-Oh cards, before they started locking the cards inside a case.