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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-11-07 06:20 pm

[ SECRET POST #2501


⌈ Secret Post #2501 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[American Horror Story]


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03.
[Beverly Hills, 90210]


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04.
[Homeland]


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[Skins]


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06.
[Signs]


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07.
[Downton Abbey]


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08.
[Epic Rap Battles of History]


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[Mass Effect]


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[orange is the new black]


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[The Swapper]


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[Rune Factory 4]


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[Skyrim]












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chardmonster: (Default)

Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-08 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you seriously trying to argue that there are no black neighborhoods in Canada?

Not defending the SEATAC thing; that's weird. I can say that it doesn't look like that in my home city. A lot of management is people of color from transportation up to the head of the education department.
ariakas: (Default)

Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-11-08 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Why do you think I'm trying to "argue" something? I'm describing my own experiences in the US that I don't have at home. They are what they are.

I have lived in Canada for 25+ years in multiple major cities, and no, not a single one of them has had an all-black neighbourhood. There are some minority dominated neighbourhoods. There's a heavily Chinese-dominated section of Vancouver, but at no point would you ever be the only non-Asian person in a MacDonalds there, less alone the only non-Asian person within multiple city blocks. As other people have pointed out above, the racial segregation to be found in many areas of the US is so striking because it doesn't occur in many other countries to the same stark extent.

Canada has race problems of its own, as I said - the native reserves being one of them. Without slavery, though, we have a different history of racial politics. That's just a fact. Own your own shit too, dude, instead of going BUT YOU HAVE SOME PROBLEMS TOO SO NYAAAAHHHHH NYAAAAH NYAAAAHHH SHUT UP SHUT UP and picking fights with anyone who criticizes them or points them out.
chardmonster: (Default)

Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-08 04:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The fuck? Dude. I posted one sentence saying that seems unlikely. I'm sorry I used a word you didn't like.

I'm owning my own shit. I am tired of people acting like the place I'm from is exactly like the deep south or Chicago (which as you may know has some pretty huge problems) because they went on vacation there. Part of having a ginormous country is ginormous differences.

I'd also contend that the gentrification of black neighborhoods in trendy urban areas is a huge problem; your black neighborhood in Chicago suddenly having a bunch of white people move in probably wouldn't be a good thing. Look what happened to Harlem.
Edited 2013-11-08 16:40 (UTC)
ariakas: (Default)

Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-11-08 04:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, you accused me of trying to "argue" some point by simply describing my experience in the US. It is what it is. No, it isn't like that in Canada. Sneering at Canadians/Europeans (as in upthread) as if we were acting like only your shit stinks (when, hell, I even went out of my way to point out that we have our own, different race issues) by describing our experiences, contrasting them with our experiences back home, and talking about how that made us feel is just plain pointless. And over-the-top defensive.

Yes, not all place in the US are the same. I said "Chicago". And "SEATAC". For what it's worth, yes, I've been to New York and Boston and all around New England and there was far less creep-tacular segregation of employment and living space than I've experienced elsewhere in the country. That said, that "elsewhere" where it's prominent and awful still exists, and (aside from the reserves) to an extent it simply doesn't in my home country and the countries of others. And it's disturbing. Maybe you'd find our reserves disturbing (I hope you would - they're awful).

Get your hackles down. OP asked a question, and good an answer. They didn't ask for it to be all rainbows and sunshine. Post your own Canada/Europe-related thread if you want.
chardmonster: (Default)

Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America

[personal profile] chardmonster 2013-11-08 04:54 pm (UTC)(link)
For the record, New York City is racist as fuck. They just like to pretend they aren't--see the Stop and Frisk fiasco and arresting that one black actor at Barney's. A lot of people there only like people of color when they're affluent or somehow trendy. When I mentioned New York I meant upstate.

I guess what I'm trying to argue is that when I was overseas (explicitly not Canada, though I've only been to Montreal and Toronto) I saw some equally creepy shit. We have more creepy shit because we have more people of color to be creepy toward.
ariakas: (Default)

Re: To Non-Americans who have visited America

[personal profile] ariakas 2013-11-08 04:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Well post a thread about overseas then. I'll gladly add my 2 cents about the shitty things I've seen in the other continents/countries I've been to. Where I currently live? Also racist as fuck, but in a different way. And oh that Asian-on-Asian racism that manages to be the most subtle but the most virulent of all o_O