[ SECRET POST #2505 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2505 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Why can't trans men use that word? If they're using it to describe themselves and not as a perjorative is then I don't see the big deal. Full disclosure, I'm not trans* and I'm really naive on trans* issues but I'd like to learn. I apologize if any of this comes off as rude.

[gondremark]

Usually when I hear the word "tranny", it's being used as a pejorative towards my friend who's a trans woman. It's never been applied to me, because the sort of people who fling slurs around don't know that trans men even exist (I've been called all sorts of things that are meant to insult butch women), so when I see the word with no context, I assume there's an Insult-Gondremark's-Friend context and cringe a bit. So that's why I don't like it.

But there's absolutely no reason whatsoever why someone can't reclaim the word if he or she so chooses, which is why after the initial cringe reaction upon reading it, I went on to completely ignore the potentially offensive connotations and read what is otherwise a rather helpful article.

The reason Tumblr says this particular word cannot be reclaimed is because Tumblr is bonkers.

And your question wasn't rude at all, no need to apologize. If you don't know something, you have to find out somehow, and asking politely is the best way to do that, never mind what Tumblr says.

[(Anonymous)]

I can totally understand that. I feel the same about the n-word, but while I personally wouldn't use it, I can understand why some black people reclaim it. So I kinda didn't see why such the fuss about a trans man using the word to describe himself. Of course, there's a lot of differences between the situations, so maybe that wasn't the best example to use.

I've heard that only trans women should only be allowed reclaim it because it is mainly used as a perjorative against them or something along those lines. I apologize if I seem to be brushing it off, I don't mean to, but I'm really naive about feminist concepts as well especially when it deals with trans* issues. The exact argument they used escapes me and it sort of went over my head.

I tend to apologize a lot and since I'm really ignorant when it such a sensitive topic, I worry that I may offend someone. I've seen a lot of people dogpiled as well, so I try to tread carefully. Thank you for being understanding.

[gondremark]

I think it's roughly the same situation with the N-word and the T-word. N-word has been reclaimed to the extent that when used within the group it's immediately known it's not an insult. T-word still has a ways to go, I don't know if it'll actually get reclaimed in the end or not, but if someone wants to try, go for it.

The T-word is used against trans women and male crossdressers much much more often than against trans men and female crossdressers, but that has more to do with popular media not seeming to know that trans men exist. We still get it flung at us on occasion (though it hasn't happened to me personally), but we're much more likely to be perceived (and thus insulted) as lesbians or gay men (it's kind of funny how you get different flavours of the gay insult depending on how well you're passing that day).

I'd say that because of this, trans women might have more of an interest in reclaiming it than trans men do (simply because they hear it so much more often), but it does apply to all of us and we're all in this together.

[(Anonymous)]

So my comparison wasn't too off the mark then. I hope that the t-word can be reclaimed to the extent that the n-word has or somewhere close to it.

Alright, since it is used much often towards trans women than trans men, I can understand a bit why trans women wouldn't want trans men to use it. However, like you said it does apply to all of you as well so I don't see too much of a problem if a trans men wanted to reclaim it and apply the word to himself.

Thank you, again. The information you've given me is really insightful and helpful. I'd ask more wuestions about trans issues but I don't want to bother you too much with my questions. I will some googling instead. Thank you so much. :3

[nyxelestia]

And your question wasn't rude at all, no need to apologize. If you don't know something, you have to find out somehow, and asking politely is the best way to do that, never mind what Tumblr says.

You, I like you. ♥

(Sorry if that's out of the blue, ran into too many "it's not my job to educate you" idiots recently, still have a headache from the eyerolling).

[cbrachyrhynchos]

I think it's an entirely legitimate response if you think the question is in bad faith to start with. There's a difference between:

1. Would you please explain?

and

2. Could you please explain why you're not a piece of shit? It's perfectly obvious to me that you are a piece of shit because, reasons. But I could be wrong so please provide your rationalizations so I can attack them.

Of course, a better response is to drop #2 into the block list, but I'm not terribly good at the better part of valor.

[gondremark]

That's the difference between someone trying to educate her or himself, and someone just being a nasty old chowderhead.

It's not my job to go around educating the world about what I am, it's your job to educate yourself, but I am one of the best sources for you to use to educate yourself. If a trans man isn't going to take a moment to explain his pronouns to someone who honestly doesn't understand, then where is the person going to learn said pronouns from? Is the person supposed to guess? ask someone else who guessed? look it up on wikipedia and hope they're at the right article? This stuff is confusing and it isn't easy to find accurate information on it, so why would I not want to help rectify this problem and explain a few things now and again, even if it does mean I'm going to be explaining the same thing in the same way to several people?

[nyxelestia]

♥

[gondremark]

See, basic human decency goes a long way :)