[ SECRET POST #2507 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2507 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

But you realize that they are flaws, and you can change those things about yourself. Most people don't like selfish, entitled people. It's just how it is.

[iceyred]

This. Most well-written stories have the characters change over time. You can work on yourself too. You don't HAVE to be selfish and entitled for the rest of your life.

[fauxkaren]

I honestly don't think Piper is THAT bad.

She is definitely self centered at times and she can be annoyingly naive. But she was in a scary and unfamiliar situation and that led to some of her more selfish behavior- like hooking up with Alex again because she wanted a connection with someone.

Piper isn't malicious.

She's just kind of self absorbed and oblivious sometimes.

And as the season wore on she definitely began to mature out of that.

[sarillia]

I feel this way about a lot of the characters I identify with.

[(Anonymous)]

It's awful that people might dislike you because of your admittedly horrible flaws?

[shinyhappypanic]

I couldn't finish the season because I got so annoyed by Piper :/ two episodes left to go but just AUGH I can't.

[lunabee34]

I think that we're pretty much all inherently selfish, but we don't have to allow that to control our behavior. I am a very selfish person which became a very difficult attitude to maintain once I became a mom eleven years ago. I had to either let go of a lot of that selfishness or else be in a constant state of resentment and anger and frustration. I think it's how we choose to process and handle our emotions and personality traits that are what's really important.

It's okay that you're selfish, OP. The rest of us are too. And it's also okay if you haven't figured out the happy medium between self-interest and self-lessness. The rest of us are working on that as well.

*hugs*

[(Anonymous)]

So I'm not sure if it's just my inner hipster or not, but I liked Piper! I liked how she started to grow and realize all her issues, like when she started calling Crazy Eyes Suzanne.

[(Anonymous)]

Most people have those flaws to a degree. I generally find that fanhate comes from specific incidents(and unfortunately characteristics that can't really be helped like voice/accents)rather than the possession of fairly common flaws.

[(Anonymous)]

The magical thing about Piper is that I both dislike her AND identify with her. I actually think the identification is what makes her so unlikeable: the show puts a magnifying glass on a bunch of traits that feel uncomfortably familiar. I think a lot of fans would probably admit to this too (not all, because not all have these flaws or are especially aware of them). But that's a big part of it.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe this is a wake-up call to change those things about yourself. They aren't particularly attractive traits in anyone.

We get to see more than her flaws in the show

[(Anonymous)]

If we met you or her in real life, OP, we wouldn't get to see her good points necessarily. We wouldn't be riding around in her head, have her backstory on hand, or assume traits based on the plot/genre of the show. And if we saw just those flaws, we would hate her, because they're really annoying flaws.

[darkmanifest]

Some people will hate you just for breathing the same air as them, and some people will love you because they want a road dog to be selfish and entitled with. So long as they aren't bad to the point of screwing over everyone around you or ruining your life, having flaws and being disliked by some folks is okay.

[otakugal15]

That's the thing. Piper is pretty much US, if we have a fairly good life and can afford to take somethings for granted. And people HATE seeing THEIR flaws in other characters, thus they hate them.

I don't hate her, but yeah, she represents what many of us end up doing, whether we mean to or not. And most don't like to own up to that.

[(Anonymous)]

So stop being an awful shithead maybe??

[(Anonymous)]

Piper is able to make friends even with her flaws. Even some things about my best friends annoy me but I still love them anyway. I'm sure I irritate them at points too. People have flaws but that's not all they are.

[(Anonymous)]

You sound like a Piper and are probably incredibly annoying. I suggest you work on your flaws rather than whine about all the people who'd dislike you if they knew you.

[(Anonymous)]

There are a lot of mean replies here that don't take into account that you're probably your own worst critic. Everybody has flaws, and Piper is specifically designed with the kind of flaws that come with being a super privileged person. You're supposed to see yourself in the protagonist, good and bad!

Yeah, she's entitled and whiny and self-absorbed, etc., but so are a lot of people. If you're aware of those facets of yourself and willing to work on them? You're already a lot better than Piper was (I think she's learning). That's stuff you can work on, and it's worth it to remember them, but make those a focal point for change, not a reason to be down on yourself. She's also compassionate, once she realizes what's going on around her, and she's passionate and resourceful and smart.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I think being a judgmental asshole like some of the people replying is a worse personality flaw than selfishness.

[(Anonymous)]

Look OP, not everyone is going to get along. You're not going to be friends with everyone, not everyone is going to like you and you're not going to like everyone else.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't read the book, then. Piper comes across as one of the most unkind and self-serving people I've ever read. She doesn't seem to develop at all during her prison experience. She's so much better written in the TV show.

[(Anonymous)]

The solution to your dilemma is quite simple: If you don't want people to dislike you for being a selfish, entitled d-bag, stop acting like a selfish, entitled d-bag.

[(Anonymous)]

I like Piper, OP. I don't even think she's as flawed as people act like she is.

[(Anonymous)]

OP, I'm sorry for all the shit you're getting from this thread. In my experience, the worst people are such because they don't realize how horrible they are, and are fully convinced of their ways. You are aware of your flaws, so I highly doubt that you can be as bad as some people above are making you to be. I've had to deal with people whose flaws were your same ones, and yes, some of them were truly horrible, but the difference is that they never even stopped to consider that they might be anything but perfect.

I guess that it's true that a lot of people would hate you for your flaws, but if you had a different set of flaws then you'd have a lot of other people hating you because of them, and if you were "perfect" you'd have people hating you because of it. You can never win, so please don't worry too much.