[ SECRET POST #2512 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2512 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

12. http://i.imgur.com/DLryy53.jpg

[kaijinscendre]

Nothing will be ridiculousness like that person who wanted a TW for gum.

[iceyred]

Is there a story to go with that? I want to know why gum could possibly need a trigger warning.

[(Anonymous)]

How?

[(Anonymous)]

dunno, there's a blog that tags practically everything with "carpophobia"

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, but there is. There was a fill on the Dragon Age kink meme featuring a female character. As kink meme fills are wont to be, it was a porn fill for a porn prompt. The author used the word "squelch" once or twice. Cue the prompter tearing into the fill, full-rage-mode, how that word triggered them and how dare they use that word in the fill! They really should have put up a warning!

Wat.

[elephantinegrace]

I had an excessively long comment tearing you a new asshole because I misread "gum" as "gun." Then I turned my computer off and rethought my life choices.

[(Anonymous)]

trident warning?

[tamabonotchi]

I'd just start posting as many pictures as I can

Also, I wish people would just say "hey tag benedict cumberbatch bc I hate that cumberbitch" and not make a grand list of "triggers" with BC in it. That's a regular "tag your shit so it's not all over my dash" everyone has.

[greenvelvetcake]

Whoa whoa whoa Benedict Cumberbatch triggers my lutraphobia. God, educate yourself!

[harp]

Barely related: the whole "Benedict Cumberbitch" reminded me of when a mod in the community queer_Rage gave my buddy a warning because he wrote "and your ass is gonna SOB!" The reason was because the mod read it as "S.O.B" which has the word "bitch" which is misogyny. I'm dead serious.

Then when it was pointed out that he meant sob as in to cry (which anyone could see if they read the sentence) it was all "fine it was AN HONEST MISTAKE, Jeez!". Oh, that mod...

[(Anonymous)]

I guess if you have a horrible allergy to bees or you've seen someone die from being stung by a bee and go into flashbacks when you see anything involving someone getting stung, asking for a trigger warning makes sense. But, yeah, that's pretty obscure. It would be ridiculous to expect a trigger warning, but I can understand where they might be coming from and it can't hurt to ask (politely).

[(Anonymous)]

I think asking someone to tag a certain thing so you can block it is different from asking for other people to call it a trigger warning.

[(Anonymous)]

you gotta be shitting me

[(Anonymous)]

I think that this particular instance converges uncomfortably with an entirely reasonable but obscure fear, with the norms and experiences of larger society.

What lots of Tumblr users tend to gloss over is the fact that even while they're afforded an individual voice that they don't possess in IRL society, it still doesn't mean that larger society on this medium has to bow to your very narrow if very real particular problems.

Like, there's a line between being sensitive and accessible, and being overly demanding of everyone else of your particular circumstances. There's nothing in the social contract that demands that every space be approachable and safe every time, especially in private blogs or journals.

I'm all for trigger warnings and being considerate of others, but when your problems are way too narrow to be considered even in the narrow spectrum of trauma victims

i.e. Car crashes are fairly common and understandable as triggers; death by peanut allergy is another, even if it is severe and unfortunate and very real. Who outside of a food distributor is going to remember to remind folks that their product contains peanuts?

Personally, I do have one exception that I consider for this-- if the internet content has severe, physical real time consequences for that person, then it's understandable that they ask for the material to be removed. Seeing someone with a bee sting, when you are allergic to bees is uncomfortable and upsetting, but you're not going to go into anaphylactic shock. However, if someone who has epilepsy sees an image that triggers a seizure, then it's reasonable to remove the image or request a warning. Only a very narrow subsection of the population has epilepsy, but in this case I'd say it's reasonable to request the material be taken down or at least warned for.

This response probably will be dogpiled in that emotional/psychological reactions to triggers are just as real and serious as physical reactions, and I agree to some extent, just not for highly unusual and rare circumstances. You can't warn everybody about everything, especially when it's otherwise innocuous to just about everyone else.

[(Anonymous)]

You won't get dogpiled, nonnie; you are using Earth logic, however, so sadly you will be ignored by the very people who would benefit the most from this perspective.

[(Anonymous)]

My favorite is "tw:scopophobia" for literally every picture with visible eyes in it (including fanart of sonic the hedgehog!)

[(Anonymous)]

I dunno about the rest, but man, Sonic's eyes are totally triggering. I mean, seriously, how doesn't he get glass shards and debris and flies and stuff into them at that speed??

[forgottenjester]

When I read your secret I giggled.

[diet_poison]

hm I mean I can definitely see how bee stings could be triggering but it's nowhere near a common enough trigger to warrant an automatic warning, is it?

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I once saw someone demand that someone edit a post to an LJ com *twice* because bug bites were triggering. I lol'd.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who generally doesn't mind this stuff, being asked to tag "bee sting" or whatever is not an issue for me, even if I really do not get it, like, at all. But why does that need a trigger warning and not just a tag?

I'm asking this seriously, because I don't get it. At all. Obviously I understand the need for TW when it is a clear trigger for unfortunately common traumas and/or violence, but the upset caused by a bee sting is pretty highly specialized, and they could just as easily request JUST a tag (not a TW tag)? Idefgi.

[gondremark]

The most preposterous trigger warning I have ever seen: mention of food.
Yes, someone thought to add a trigger warning because something talked about food. Not certain foods, not problematic eating habits, just ... food.

I don't believe in trigger warnings. If I'm going post something that is problematic, disconcerting, or graphic I'll make a note so that my reader knows what to expect and can choose to pass something up instead of being reading or seeing something they would really rather have avoided, but I'm not going to try to map traumas and phobias onto that every twitchy little detail of everything I make or quote, that is creative effort much better spent finding pictures of cute spiders or frying a steak or whatever.

[(Anonymous)]

I have actual medically diagnosed PTSD. I have been triggered multiple times IRL.

I have yet to be triggered in fandom. This is not to say that everyone should be able to do the same, but trigger warnings are waaaaaay over used.

Can't we go back to simple 'warnings'? I've had PTSD since 1998 and I think the 'warnings' and 'squicks' worked just fine.

Using the term trigger warning for every stupid fucking thing on the planet that makes you uncomfortable is downplaying the very real trauma that people with PTSD go through when triggered.

If a picture of bees or gums makes you catatonic, hospitalized, cry and scream in anguish, trapped in the past memories, want to kill yourself, flinch when a loved one comes near you or just have a full on breakdown, you have bigger issues than asking people to add a TW for things.

[(Anonymous)]

I actually do get triggered by images of bees. I have an extreme phobia of bees, strong enough that I have had to go to therapy just to be able to go outside on sunny bee-friendly days. And I do mean a real trigger, strong enough that it causes panic attacks and/or a state where I literally freeze and cannot move or communicate to anyone until the bee is gone. (Just writing this is making me feel a bit shaky.)

That being said. I wouldn't ask for a trigger warning for something like that. My phobia is my issue.

Now, if you were say, writing a fic that involved an extremely graphic scene of being stung, focusing on the details and the pain, then yeah I might want a trigger warning for that. But that's not what you posted at all, so while I get where the commenter was coming from, s/he's not right to demand anything.