[ SECRET POST #2512 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2512 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Being the first commenter (at least as I type) inspired this

[dimestoresaint]

Not really exclusive to the internet, but I hate seeing women referred to as "females" in non-scientific contexts.

Re: Being the first commenter (at least as I type) inspired this

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, THIS. So much.

It grates in the same way "crotchfruit" does (mentioned in the first comment). It's just... dehumanizing.

But hey, it's also generally a good indicator to avoid the person using the term.

Re: Being the first commenter (at least as I type) inspired this

[sarillia]

I only dislike it when the person using it says "men" in the same paragraph. "Men" and then "females" grates on my nerves.

Re: Being the first commenter (at least as I type) inspired this

[(Anonymous)]

I agree. That seems to tell me that it's deliberate othering.

Re: Being the first commenter (at least as I type) inspired this

[diet_poison]

deliberate, or very, very ingrained. or both. (I honestly think they sometimes don't realize what they are doing, but in that case they usually aren't at all open to correction, sadly.)

Re: Being the first commenter (at least as I type) inspired this

[starphotographs]

I refer to men as males and women as females now and then. Oh, and humans collectively as "apes." :P

(WELL WE ARE!)

Re: Being the first commenter (at least as I type) inspired this

[diet_poison]

THIS THIS THIS

It doesn't bother me as much if that person uses "males" the same way but then I just think it's dumb. But the number of time I have seen dudebros use "female" casually to mean "women", sometimes even using "men" or "guys" in the same sentences slaksdf;lakj

whenever I point it out people are like "stop making a big deal about nothing" I am glad it bothers other people too. it feels very dehumanizing.

Re: Being the first commenter (at least as I type) inspired this

[gondremark]

As a transgender man, I sometimes find occasion to speak of being biologically male or female. I refer to myself as a "female bodied person", as snooty as that sounds, because it's a clinical and medical and biological and inescapable fact that doesn't define me and yet I have to deal with on a daily basis. I'd say this counts as a scientific context.
But in other contexts, we have women and men, chicks and dude, girls and guys, ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls. Nouns. Female and male are adjectives.
And yes, it's not nice at all when someone casually refers to women as females; it feels like they're defining them by the fact that they are female persons, specimens, examples, instead of people.

Re: Being the first commenter (at least as I type) inspired this

[dimestoresaint]

"Female-bodied person" doesn't sound snooty at all, and it's not what I was referring to. In that case you ARE talking about being female in the scientific or clinical sense. That's totally different than someone going "I just don't understand females!" like we're a different species or something.

Re: Being the first commenter (at least as I type) inspired this

[gondremark]

When I use the phrase, it sounds awkward and full of definitions and it's definitely unweildy. It comes off as much more academic than I would like when I'm using it in ordinary conversations.
On the other hand, it's describes exactly what I mean with no room for doubt, so it IS ideal, but it SOUNDS kind of blathery. And it is a scientific or academic description, though, and totally falls under fair use that way :)