[ SECRET POST #2513 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2513 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Early post!

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 048 secrets from Secret Submission Post #359.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Comments

[diet_poison]

Really?

Original art is original and property of the artist. Fic isn't. It isn't a matter of whether the writer "deserves" to get paid but whether it's legal/ethical for them to be paid to write something that isn't actually theirs.

Or are you trolling?

[(Anonymous)]

so you're against people commissioning fanart, then? or are you just a hypocrite?

[diet_poison]

That escalated quickly.

I was actually going to edit my comment but it had been replied to. But I'm not sure why you automatically think I'm ok with people commissioning fanart? I didn't say that?

Or is that what you meant by "art"? Sorry if that's what you meant but I thought you were asking "why is original art paid for and not fan [art, such as fic]"

[(Anonymous)]

you accused me of trolling first. look to yourself for "escalation" before you start throwing stones.

you also gave no indication on whether you did, or did not, consider fanart to be art. it is, by the by. perhaps not good art, in some cases, and in others, it's better even than the source material, in terms of skill.

so, clarify: do you, or do you not, believe that it is right to purchase fanart? consider that conventions make large quantities of money on allowing artists, bot those that did not work on the original property as well as those that did work on the original property, to sell their work at their venues, before you jump to a decision.

[diet_poison]

...I did say I was going to edit the comment. Specifically, I was going to remove the bit about trolling, because after some consideration I realized that probably wasn't the case.

You do seem really upset with me though. I'm not sure why. Again, the reason I overreacted to your first comment was I thought you were comparing original art to fan "art" such as fic. Obviously I misunderstood. I'm not dead against fanart commissioning, I was just surprised when I thought you didn't see a difference between that and original art.

I honestly haven't given it that much thought. I've bought fanart before. I guess as long as they recognize it's fanart, and are willing to stop immediately if the original artist asks them to, I don't have a problem with it.

[(Anonymous)]

you jumped to a conclusion about what I said, and your knee-jerk response was to accuse me of trolling, then be hurt because I could not read your mind that you were going to delete that part.

yes. of course.

regardless, you admit to purchasing fanart, and say that - caveat notwithstanding - you have no problem with it. Then how, exactly, does fanfic differ from fanart, really? one assumes that the writer understands that they do not own the original property, and that they have not been asked by the franchise holder to stop writing, or even stop charging for their work. so why is it acceptable for an artist to charge, but not a writer? they are both artisans using their skills on behalf of someone willing to pay for that benefit.

[(Anonymous)]

Anon, calm down and stop jumping the gun to reach for offence

[(Anonymous)]

amusingly enough, I'm actually not angry. more amused, than anything, but thank you for your concern, sir knight.

[(Anonymous)]

"I'm not actually angry"

riiiight...

[(Anonymous)]

as you will. shrugs

[(Anonymous)]

uhhhhhhhhhh

Sure, if you say so~

[diet_poison]

Um...no.

I didn't jump to a conclusion for what you said. I MISREAD it. I made a mistake. I apologized for it. Sorry for being human? You really need to let it go.

And I'm not hurt because you couldn't "read my mind", I'm annoyed because when I said I meant to edit it and that I'd reconsidered my stance, it went right over your head and you continued acting like I said it maliciously and still meant it.

You are just really determined to be righteously indignant, though, aren't you?

Then how, exactly, does fanfic differ from fanart, really?

Holy shit, anon, I'm sorry for being so aggravated right now but THAT'S NOT WHAT I SAID. At ALL. Did you read anything I just wrote?? My entire point was that fanfic and fanart differ from ORIGINAL art. And, yes, I get that that wasn't what you said in the first place. Again - I misread it.

Can we get over this now?

+1

[(Anonymous)]

pfffh. 100% agreed.