[ SECRET POST #2532 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2532 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

04. http://i.imgur.com/qXwYr5S.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

I hate that so much... however, basing stories on fairy tales/folklore/popular figures has been a thing for decades, so if you change anything that's too close for comfort, I think you should be okay.

Once Upon a Time is already derrivitive

[ozaline]

There's already Fables the comic book (Which ABC optioned before they just decided to do their own take on it, and almost certainly "inspired" OUaT), and Into the Woods (which isn't set in the modern world but still has multiple fairy tales living together)...

Feel free to do your own version, no one can stop you.

Re: Once Upon a Time is already derrivitive

[(Anonymous)]

The guy who wrote Fables said he watched OUAT and didn't find the two to be similar. He said the only thing he'd have issue was if Graham was the Wolf but he wasn't.

Re: Once Upon a Time is already derrivitive

[writerserenyty]

As someone who adores both Fables and OUAT I think they share similar ideas but OUAT isn't necessarily copying Fables. It's just taking the idea of "fairytales put into the 'real world'" and going in two fairly different directions with everything.

That said, if OP has an idea on how to make it original enough, then they should go for it.

Re: Once Upon a Time is already derrivitive

[bringreligiontothewamwams]

OUAT was just a lazy reboot of ABC's "The Charmings".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRLYJHUeoFE

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, but it's not derivative of OUAT.

[(Anonymous)]

One thing that drives me nuts about OUAT is how (at least according to extras on the season one boxset) the actors & people working on it seem to think that it's ~so unique~. Yes, the show has interesting ideas, but there's nothing unique about 1) retelling fairy tales, 2) mashing quite a few of them together, or 3) putting fairy tale characters in modern times. Just. Really?

OP, I think you should go for it. Just because the idea isn't new, doesn't mean you can't put your own spin on it.

[hiyami]

As others pointed out, there's already Fables about the same thing, and Neil Gaiman pretty much made a career out of rewriting old myths and fairytales into grim, modernized versions.

So, you can still write your own.

[thelonebamf]

+1 to this.

As a fan of fairy tales (and reinterpretations therof) I don't often find myself thinking "oh this is derivative of that other retelling". There have been a ton of fairy tale themed properties in the last decade, there's room for more, as long as they are well done and interesting and have a reason to exist among the others. :)

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty much in accordance with everyone else, OP. These stories have been around for years, been re-imagined a LOT of times, and will continue to be done so. Grittier/Darker retelling's have always been popular in retellings as well.

I say go for it, the reason OUaT does so well is that there are so many fans of these stories, that they are always looking for a retelling. Sure, there will be complainers, and there will also be people who things you're copying OUaT, but I think the majority of people would just be happy to have another retelling of their favorite fairy tales to enjoy.

Secret 4 - Once Upon a Time, retellings/crossovers of fairy tales

[transcriptanon]

[Picture is a promotional image of the TV series "Once Upon a Time", featuring Princess Snow White, as portrayed by the actress Ginnifer Goodwin, walking carefully through a passageway made of wranches. She is a young woman with light skin, long, wavy dark brown hair, and wearing a short-sleeved white dress.]

I'm sad that this show exists and is successful, because I had an idea years ago for a "Grimm and edgy" epic with fairy tales all twisted together, and now if I ever do anything with it people will think it's derivative. [sad face emoticon]

I had bits and pieces of Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, The Snow Queen, The Three Little Pigs, The Princess Who Never Laughed/The Golden Goose, Rumpelstiltskin, Jack and the Beanstalk, Donkeyskin, Little Red Riding Hood, Hansel and Gretel, East of the Sun West of the Moon, Rapunzel, Bluebeard, Beauty and the Beast, Diamonds and Toads, and The Seven Ravens. It was going to be so awesome. ...I thought so, anyway.

[othellia]

You'll be totally fine, OP. Doing GRIMDARK versions of fairytales is pretty standard quo. Even excluding OUaT and Fables from the line-up, there's Gregory Maguire's series of retellings, The Brothers Grimm movie that came out a while back, American McGee's Grimm...

If it makes you feel better, I felt quite the same when ATLA first revealed blood bending. I was writing an elemental magic story and my water people had a similar ability and I thought everyone would point fingers at me for 'copying' ATLA if I kept it. Granted I know better now, but it was especially silly since mine was more 'ripping blood out of their veins to cause instant death' than controlling people, and the more I thought about it, I realized it was ultimately ripped-off itself by Magneto doing the same thing in one of the X-Men movies.

But yeah, people get ideas from other ideas all the time. As long as you do something new with it, I don't think anyone will point fingers.

[sootyowl]

Go for it. Like others said, retelling fairy tales has been going on for decades. As long as you bring a new interpretation to the table, you'll be fine.

[(Anonymous)]

This is like being afraid everyone will think your vampire story is copying NBC's Dracula.

[(Anonymous)]

DO IT ANYWAY. Everything about fairy tales are derivative!

[(Anonymous)]

I wish your show was on the air instead of that trainwreck that is OUAT. And yay for including the more obscure fairy tales! I bet if you mentioned any of those to the OUAT showrunners they probably be wondering what the hell you were talking about, lol.

[diet_poison]

I think you should write it anyway if you want to, OP! Share it with people who you think will appreciate it. Everything overlaps to some degree. If you put a disclaimer that it doesn't have anything to do with OUaT and it's just for your enjoyment and people don't bother to read it then they're just being dumb.

[(Anonymous)]

You should go for it! It really seems to be more of its own genre anyway. I mean, aside from OUAT, there's Grimm, there's Fables, and at least one book series whose name escapes me. Plus, your choice of fairy tales makes the whole idea sound much more interesting to me.

Your targeting the wrong work.

[insanenoodlyguy]

Fables came first, so you pretty much already had no chance.



Also, about a million books before that?

Stop thinking you reinvented the wheel. Your only hope is your story actually being good to stand out form the rest, which was already a challenge for that matter.

[(Anonymous)]

Write it anyway!

Besides, OUaT is such a let down. I stopped watching it this season when I realized the only character I gave a damn about was Hook and I just couldn't watch it any more.

[(Anonymous)]

Can I just highfive you for knowing East of the Sun and West of the Moon? I am sick to death with Grimm tales. Asbjørnsen and Moe are my jam and I'm glad they haven't been ruined by Disney yet.

[blueonblue]

If it's a book, you should go for it because the fairy tale market isn't completely saturated yet. If it's a script, the moment has kind of passed, it's not even a good time to write spec scripts for OUAT.

[electromouse]

Write it anyway. I mean, the original fairy tales where pretty grim dark to begin with. And OUaT has been going downhill for a while now, which I was kind of excited for because I like fairy tales, but holy mess of a story, Batman! That show stopped making sense since around the second season.