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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-08 03:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2532 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Before you get too comfortable on that high horse, OP, let's just remember that 1) Sami have been intermarrying with non-Sami people for centuries and 2) people can identify as Sami based on their cultural heritage, even if the actual percentage of Sami genetic contribution to their DNA is tiny. So pointing to random pictures of modern Sami doesn't mean anything.

As a minor corrective, here are a couple of pictures of Sami from the late-19th century I found on Wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Sea_sami_man.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Three_S%C3%A1mi_Lapp_women,_c1890s.jpg
YMMV, but personally I think three out of those four people look Eurasian rather than white European.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 10:28 pm (UTC)(link)
All fo them look like white people in old black-white photographs. My very white great-grandparents look this way too.

I do beleive that Sami people have once been non-white a very long time ago and probably still aren't as close to Aryan posterchildren as the Nordics, but let's be serious here, a couple fo old photos prove nothing and no nation can go white just in three generations.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Ugh, this. If you look at photos of my grandma in the 20s when she was a teenager, she has that same dark coloring. A woman who, btw, many people said was one of the palest people they've ever met. Film technology just wasn't as good back then as it is now.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:03 pm (UTC)(link)
(Anon who posted the links)

I was referring to their features, not the darkness of their skin, when I said they looked Eurasian to me; I'm well aware of how difficult it can be to determine complexion based on old photos.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Not to mention that plenty of Asians and Eurasians have pale skin, anyway.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-09 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
As a Eurasian, I can testify to this.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
(anon who first replied to your pics)

As an Eastern European, I disagree. Your impression is your impression, but it's not the same as mine at all.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 10:52 pm (UTC)(link)
.... wow.

*stares at this comment*


*backs away slowly*

Imagine a lot of nope.gif here.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
Why? Unless you're reading something into my comment that isn't there. I forgot to add the disclaimer that I'm aware that Sami people face oppression on the basis of the culture, so let me put it here. I just oppose taking photos of white people and sayign it's a proof they're actually really not white.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
This is what I meant:

no nation can go white just in three generations

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
You mean they can?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean "going white" is a completely useless frame of reference.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
What frame of reference?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-09 04:50 am (UTC)(link)
Image Yeah, actually. The Australians attempted to wipe out the Aboriginal population by kidnapping half-white, half-Aboriginal children from their homes and forcing them to grow up and have children with white Australians and "dilute" their Aboriginal blood.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-09 07:30 am (UTC)(link)
DA

Yeah, but that's still not the entire nation. In order for everybody to "go white" in that short a time frame literally their entire population would have to be marrying interracially.
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[personal profile] gondremark 2013-12-09 01:03 pm (UTC)(link)
And it would take a lot more than just three generations for all the genes associated with the original population to stop showing up on a regular basis.