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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-08 03:47 pm

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How does values dissonance affect your opinion of characters?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Do you judge characters based on how good they are relative to their time period/culture, or how good they are relative to your own values? And does your judgement of the characters make a difference depending on whether it's historical fiction written decades or centuries after the fact, or fiction that's a product of it's time?

Re: How does values dissonance affect your opinion of characters?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-08 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
I try to keep in mind the different values of different time periods, and make allowances for the historical differences. Based on the time when the creator was writing, mostly.
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Re: How does values dissonance affect your opinion of characters?

[personal profile] bringreligiontothewamwams 2013-12-08 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I take characters within the bounds of the culture created for them mostly. Historical characters even moreso. I may judge the culture the characters come from though, especially if the author is uncritical on it but again I make allowances for the time and culture the author comes from.

Where I run into trouble is authors like OSC, Brian Lumley, or Terry Goodkind who live through immense social change, but then double down on the old prejudices and insulting language instead of changing with the times.

Re: How does values dissonance affect your opinion of characters?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-09 04:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I take characters within the bounds of the culture created for them mostly. Historical characters even moreso.

This. Nope, I'm not about to judge Lavrans Bjorgulfsson for arranging a marriage for Kristin.
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Re: How does values dissonance affect your opinion of characters?

[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-12-08 11:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much all the characters I like are psycho regardless of their time period, so...I definitely try to judge them relative to their individual experiences, when I can.

Re: How does values dissonance affect your opinion of characters?

[personal profile] cbrachyrhynchos 2013-12-09 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
I judge characters based on how well they're written, not whether I personally agree with them.

Re: How does values dissonance affect your opinion of characters?

(Anonymous) 2013-12-09 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
I'd say it really depends on how much of it might be the times (or other factors) versus the character's worth as a person.

For example, Mad Men. I think some of the things the characters say and do are due to the time they're in; it's probable that my grandparents held similar views or also lacked understanding about certain things in the 60s. But there's things that are wrong regardless of the time, too. I think even for his time, Don's supposed to be a sleazy womanizer.

But it's definitely tricky, and I'm not really sure where you draw the line. :/

Re: How does values dissonance affect your opinion of characters?

[personal profile] herpymcderp 2013-12-09 02:47 am (UTC)(link)
I judge characters based on whether or not they act like people. It's actually pretty rare to find a writer who writes realistic people.