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On the one hand - the Sami are, as far as I know, a marginalized minority in Europe.

On the other hand - you're write, they're not exactly 'POC' in the media-conventional sense.

Now, Frozen is subject to two problems - people who wanted POC in it (which is a "this is a piece of American/Western media" problem) and people who wanted Sami in it (which is a "despite all the artistic license, this is still based on a specific European culture and area with an exploited minority in it and in the movie" problem). These probably started out as two separate issues, but Tumblr being what it is conflated them into one big clusterfuck.

SJW madness at its worst: they have legitimate points, but they've warped it so much that it's impossible to deal with those points without detangling layers of misconceptions and misinformation.

At least I presume so - I was more focused on Frozen's gender problem. And on that note - to the people who've seen the movie: I've heard quite a bit about how the production cut out almost all of the female characters from the original story and put in an some extra male characters that many saw as unnecessary. But I've also heard hints of some good things about the two female leads that were there (did it pass the Bechdel test? IDK). What are your thoughts on it?

Did it pass the bechdel test? I'm not sure it passed the male-bechdel test, tbh.

Nobody fucking cares about "male" bechdel tests except for MRAs.

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...I think it was just a joke

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ahaha yeah I meant that as in "I can't think of any instance of two men talking to each other about something other than a woman, draw your own conclusions!" because that movie passes the bechdel test with flying colors. I didn't mean I was actually worried about male bechdel tests?

Um...the trailer I watched for it passed the Bechdel test, so I'd have to assume the movie did.

It'd have been pretty hard for it NOT to pass the Bchdel test, tbh. Both Elsa and Anna care mainly about each other, and the cause of the rift between them is based around their relationship and the fact that they don't know each other very well (for plot reasons)

(did it pass the Bechdel test? IDK.)

With flying fucking colors. There are maybe three or four points in the movie where the sisters mention men at all when they're talking to each other. Every other conversation is either them playing as kids, or talking about the serious effects of Elsa's power. It's really, really brilliant in that respect.

That's good to hear. :)

The sister relationship is the core of the story, but they focused much more on one sister over the other and some of the romance seemed more than unnecessary (could have been friendship and wouldn't have changed the plot at all). Really fun though.

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