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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-09 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2533 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Same here. But I think people decided to hate this one early on, first because "Wow, lazy character designs, they look exactly like Rapunzel!" (I'm pretty sure Belle and Ariel had the same face model) and then because it wasn't The Snow Queen and it had goofy animal/snowman sidekicks. Now people are nitpicking about a minor animation goof. I think tumblr just decided to hate Frozen.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-12-10 12:10 am (UTC)(link)
Well, the character design WAS kinda lazy and uninspiring tbh. But the story was still good and the characters were fun so I didn't mind too much.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed on both accounts. It's lazy but not a reason to hate everything and declare boycotts.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 02:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. I liked the movie, but could see the flaws.

I just wanted a movie all about Elsa, no one else!

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
a minor animation goof

There are actually a ton. A lot of clipping and shit that first year college students would know better than to do.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, okay.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
I would have given them a pass on the faces thing if the animation that wasn't so..subpar. I mean the backgrounds are lovely, and the stuff they had complicated computer programs for was pretty (snowflakes). I mean the first Sherk movie didn't have this many issues. Hoodwinked didn't have this many issues.

It's just deeply disappointing for a company like Disney that can do much much better.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I guess. I honestly didn't notice any of those issues when I was watching it, but I'm not an animator or animation student. But for the record, I've also seen posts showing all the many animated movies that have a lot of goof-ups, that nobody jumped on like this, so I still think that most of it is just the fact that this movie is popular to hate. I don't think everyone who dislikes it is doing that, though. There are valid criticisms. Maybe if I watched it again and looked harder I would feel the same way about the animation.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-12-10 03:00 am (UTC)(link)
What were the other issues they had? I've only seen two animation goofs mentioned.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 09:13 am (UTC)(link)
The first Shrek movie didn't have as many issues. Hoodwinked didn't have this many issues.

[Citation needed.]

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
Which, besides the hair and the thumb? Honestly curious.

I mean, there's also the fact that a lot of animates movies have goofs up the wazoo and no one cares to complaint.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
Actually yes they do. The point of these mistakes is that they are really basic mistakes that a good 3d animator is trained not only to not make but to spot. People have come to expect better from Disney.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
And those complains served what purpose?

You point it out, shout that it is inexcusable and that you expected better from Disney, and....? Honestly it just feels like people ran out of things to criticize about the movie. Got tired of commenting on the character designs and lack of inclusion; realized that while it's not the same as the Snow Queen, it does justice to the female characters. Yet gripping about minor errors is not really a productive discussion. Honestly the outrage over the animation is just burying the other discussions and that says a lot about what the so called 'critical thinkers' are really trying to do (find the highest horse and get on it)

Also, which are the other mistakes besides the thumb and the hair?
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[personal profile] iggy 2013-12-10 04:05 am (UTC)(link)
And yet errors pop up like this in almost every animated movie. Minor errors in films, animated and otherwise, are a thing. Editing and dailies don't catch all of them. Ever. This is a thing that occurs when humans make films.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 04:17 am (UTC)(link)
this. there are plenty of live-action movies that have mistakes too... hell, off the top of my head i can think of two in star wars. but no one makes a big deal out of them because they're just minor things that don't otherwise detract from the enjoyment of the film.