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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-09 06:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #2533 ]


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(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:08 am (UTC)(link)
Year, then there's the thing where during the LOR (I may be incorrect about this, please correct me if I am) they wouldn't allow POC to play any of the (might have been background) hobbits.

And the whole 'KATNISS IS TOTALLY A WOC ANYONE WHO SAYS ANYTHING ELSE IS WHITEWASHING' thing got a bit out of hand, but the studio did only ask for white actress. Sure it'd be neat if Katniss was played as a WOC, but it's not canon and speculation is just headcanoninh.

It's situations where a character is completely open to be played as non-white yet the only ones that are allowed to be chosen from are white when it gets a little 'racist-y'
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-12-10 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Like, Katniss COULD be a WOC, but she isn't DEFINITELY a WOC.

But I 100% agree that it was shitty that the studio was ONLY looking for white actresses when it could have been a role that WOC should have been able to audition for.

But the fact that Katniss is played by a white actress isn't white washing because the character wasn't necessarily a WOC originally.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
So agreed on this. I see tumblr posts where it's like "Katniss is a WOC and here's all the proof."

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
you forget how people complained about Rue being black when CLEARLY SHE WASN'T MENTIONED AS BLACK IN THE BOOKS!!1!!!!1

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:50 am (UTC)(link)
That was pretty revolting. A lot of those people had no problem throwing racist slurs at a young girl, and the most popular justification was "But she reminded Katniss of Prim, who had light skin and blonde hair!"

Uh, yeah, but her skin and color weren't the things that reminded Katniss of Prim.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
because personality doesn't count for anything, amirite?

Whoops, meant to say skin and hair color.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
That's because SJWs are actually racists, ageists, ableists, etc., they've just found the perfect cover story to allow them to get away with it.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 03:51 am (UTC)(link)
Uh, the people saying that definitely weren't sjws.
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[personal profile] toshi_hakari 2013-12-10 10:44 am (UTC)(link)
When I read all those comments online, I was like: "English, motherfucker, can you read it?!"

Seriously, a whole generation that fails at reading comprehension... it makes me cry.
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-12-10 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
My sister got on my back about the whole "KATNISS IS A WOC" thing, and I think is still kind of pissed that I insisted that olive-skinned COULD mean a white person. I don't disagree she could be a WOC and that the whole "white actresses only" thing is pretty shitty, but I don't think that the books say explicitly "Katniss is a WOC" and it doesn't make the movies themselves terrible.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 01:32 am (UTC)(link)
all i can think is that the people who think olive-skinned can't equal white have never met anyone from the mediterranean region of europe before. one of my coworkers from my last job was greek and she got dark as hell in the summer when she was out in the sun, but she was still white.
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[personal profile] writerserenyty 2013-12-10 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
That's what I told her, but she insisted that olive-skinned could only mean POC.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
honestly, i shouldn't be that surprised, because i have another friend who is italian and she always gets people assuming that she must be hispanic or mixed because a white person couldn't possibly have skin that dark.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-12-10 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
I have seriously only heard olive skinned used to describe people that region if you don't count tumblr. So I always assumed anybody with that descriptor is ethnically resembling people of that area.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Same here. It never even occurred to me that people would see that descriptor and think anything OTHER than Mediterranean.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
This is what I picture as well.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-12-10 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I first heard it used to describe a Hispanic kid, so I always associated it with Hispanic people. I guess it differs from person to person.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2013-12-10 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Same. Marco in Animorphs was the first person I saw it applied to.
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[personal profile] darkmanifest 2013-12-10 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
Hahaha, that's exactly the character I was referring to.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 03:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Well many hispanic people are actually descended from Spaniards and Portuguese people, so yeah...

(Anonymous) 2013-12-10 08:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Sigh, the woe of being a mediterranean with pale as fuck skin. One's always forgotten.