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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-12-27 06:47 pm

[ SECRET POST #2551 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2551 ⌋

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04. [SPOILERS for something but idk what]



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07. [WARNING for rape]

[Martin Freeman]


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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
so I'm not in the mood to look anything up about rape, but I DO know the DD thing and... yeah I was upset by it too, and all the folks brushing it off with "well he's a redneck, what do you expect"... idk, basic human decency? why does he get a pass just because he's a member of a group KNOWN for hate? shouldn't that make us judge more harshly??

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Um, what hate? When asked about his religious beliefs, he answered with them. His beliefs border on intolerance but at no time did he use hate speech or even say anything derogatory.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
yeah comparing them to animal fuckers and saying they all have murder in their hearts isn't hate. sure.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
1. He didn't say they have hate in their hearts.
2. He did not compare them to animal fuckers anymore than me saying you are presumably a human being compares you to animal fuckers. He gave a list of groups based on behavior that he believes are sinners. The same ones in the bible.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
He also said that he misses the days of segregation and Jim Crow laws.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
Really? I'm looking at the full interview right in front of me and I can't find that anywhere.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
DA

He said black people didn't have it so hard under Jim Crow.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Nope. Try again.
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Moron you never googled once did you

[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2013-12-28 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
Look, this guy said some sketchy shit. No doubt there.

The problem is, you have no fucking clue what he said. You know what some people said about what he said. And so, since you don't know what the fuck you are talking about. You should shut the fuck up until you've actually gone and gotten the very easy to obtain video or transcript of the video. Then you can speak as somebody who knows what they are talking about.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
nayrt

IIRC he said that African-Americans in the South under Jim Crow were contented and that the end of Jim Crow was the result of "outside agitation". So while it's not explicitly saying "bring back Jim Crow", it is saying that Jim Crow wasn't bad and that the process of ending it was not because of people who actually lived under it. And the distance between those two positions is not very far and I think a reasonable person could recognize that.

Also I don't understand why you're super loading up to defend the fucking Duck Dynasty guy and be aggro about it, but w/e, do your thing

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even care about this guy, I just think most people who are jumping to point fingers at him should know why they're doing it. Because GLAAD was upset? News flash: people have the right to offend others. Organizations, at least in America, do not have the right to threaten people or companies, which is exactly what happened. And companies cannot bring action against employees for their religious beliefs, which is what A&E did when GLAAD pressured them. It's illegal and that's why his suspension has been nullified.

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[personal profile] transcriptanon 2013-12-28 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
"I never, with my eyes, saw the mistreatment of any black person. Not once. Where we lived was all farmers. The blacks worked for the farmers. I hoed cotton with them. I'm with the blacks, because we're white trash. We're going across the field [...] They're singing and happy. I never heard one of them, one black person, say, 'I tell you what: These doggone white people'—not a word! [...] Pre-entitlement, pre-welfare, you say: Were they happy? They were godly; they were happy; no one was singing the blues."

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2013/12/phil-robertsons-america/282555/

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DA

Thank you.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 04:14 am (UTC)(link)
Wait, so they literally asked him what life was like wrt race relations where he grew up, and he answered them truthfully about what he saw and experienced, and what he saw and experienced was basically that the poor black people and the poor white people got along okay. Yes, clearly he meant that segregation should be reinstated.

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(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
1.He did actually, he just didn't say it in that interview.
2. In a different interview he actually did imply it [what he actually said was that it would lead to them becoming "animal fuckers" as you put it.]

So, he actually did - it's just being brought up now because of other things he said.

Also, Re: Jim Crow laws - what he said was that "blacks were happy under them! They liked them!" [paraphrasing here, of course.]

(Anonymous) 2013-12-29 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
THANK YOU FOR THIS. +1!
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-12-28 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
Not really? I mean...come on. Who didn't think the DD people thought that? No one is going to change their stance this late in their life. We can only wait for them to die. YOU WILL BE GONE SOON BIGOTED BABY BOOMERS! SOON!

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
That doesn't mean that we can't react to those views.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Bigotry will always exist in some form or another, that's just human nature. So all those OMG!BIGOT old people will only be replaced by bigoted young people, even if they're bigoted in different ways.

The next generation will look on us and shake their heads and pat themselves on the back for not being bigoted "like those old people" while nurturing their own form of bigotry.

The only hope is if people start taking a good, hard looks at themselves and identify their own bigotry, but most people would rather point at what the "other guy" is doing.

/cynic
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2013-12-28 12:34 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah. And I can't wait to see what the next generations bigots are. I can only assume it is going to involve technology.
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[personal profile] greenvelvetcake 2013-12-28 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe not our generation, but I'd bet human/robot relations will be one of the next things. It's Adam and Eve, not Android and Eve!

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 05:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Technology-based bigotry has existed for a while now. There was Mac vs Windows and just escalated from there.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Judge? Go right ahead. Be utterly shocked and act like it came out of left field? That's what I have a problem with.

You should have instead been waiting on the sidelines and when he said what he said, have gone, "Yep. And there it is."

Like waiting for your racist, homophobic uncle to say something racist and homophobic at Thanksgiving dinner. It's okay to be upset by it. It's not okay to be utterly surprised like it was never going to happen.

(Anonymous) 2013-12-28 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
That was actually my reaction when I heard about it, judgmental but not a little bit shocked. I did start hoping their show gets cancelled or they loose some sponsorships and contracts over this right after not being surprised.

I don't mind people liking things I don't like, but I do mind when things I don't like get so heavily saturated that you can't turn a corner in a store without seeing something with their hairy faces and stupid catch phrases stamped all over it.

[personal profile] agnes_bean 2013-12-28 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
+1

I had the "what did you expect?" reaction, but I didn't mean it as, like "what did you expect, you can't be angry about this." I hated what he said, and am all for people raging about how bad it is, but I also think anyone who was truly surprised by it was naive.