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⌈ Secret Post #2559 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Unpopular fandom opinion

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think ST09 and STID are abominations or anything. They're Trek movies that are also kind of bad (ST09) and real bad (STID). It's not really new that this would happen - there's plenty of old Trek that was bad, and I don't think the reboot stuff is bad in some way that makes it fundamentally distinct from, like, Threshold or Final Frontier or Insurrection or whatever else is.

That said, I agree with the whole "don't like it but happy about its effect on fandom" thing.

Re: Unpopular fandom opinion

[(Anonymous)]

It's not the badness that makes them different, it's that they are devoid of everything that makes Trek Trek. And on top of that, they're not very good either. If they were either Trek-ish but bad, or un-Trek-ish but good it would be fine, but they're neither.

Re: Unpopular fandom opinion

[(Anonymous)]

Ehhhhh I don't think that's fair. I don't. I mean, they're action movies, but they're not unique among Trek movies in that. And I think it's hard to differentiate between being un-Trek and being bad - if they seem un-Trek I think that's probably just a side effect of them being bad Trek movies. I don't think they're so far outside the range of possibilities that, you know, we can say they're fundamentally different.

But that's just my opinion.

Re: Unpopular fandom opinion

[(Anonymous)]

Nope. IDGAF about being action or not, that's not what it was. Even Final Frontier and Nemesis felt...in tune with TOS and TNG, respectively, even though I'd say they were technically worse movies than XI or STID. I at least felt they had some fragment of the same atmosphere and ideas, were written by people who actually understood and liked the little things about what made Star Trek so uniquely Star Trek. The big things and the overall plots were fucking terrible, but they didn't feel like they were purposely reversing or misunderstanding everything about what made TOS good.

Which you know, I could have dealt with given the whole alternate-universe thing if the movies had been good. There's a HUGE difference between being bad and being un-Trek.

Re: Unpopular fandom opinion

[(Anonymous)]

Eh. Maybe you're right, I don't know.

Re: Unpopular fandom opinion

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT. Aaargggh, Nemesis. Why did you have to mention that?! Every time I have a memory of it, another part of my brain shuts down. That was one poopy turd of a movie.