[ SECRET POST #2560 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2560 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I find him gross because of this.

http://grrm.livejournal.com/155522.html

[(Anonymous)]

Don't fans write pretty the same things on their blogs about actors/characters though? People have libidos, sometimes it's gross to think about when they're old and fat but, oh wait, we're not supposed to judge, are we?

[(Anonymous)]

But that's totally different because reasons!

[(Anonymous)]

+1,000,000

Fucking double standards

[(Anonymous)]

Of course not. Any bad behavior is okay if we can rationalize it!

[(Anonymous)]

DA. As in "it's okay when WE do it, but bad when YOU do it." That the kind of rationalization you're talking about?

Personally, I think the post was in bad taste - but he's got plenty of company right here in fandomland.

[(Anonymous)]

How dare an older white man that we don't find sexually appealing be attracted to women whose entire job was to look attractive! (Older white men that we DO find sexually appealing are allowed to do and say pretty much whatever they want and we'll smile and act giddy about it, though.)

[(Anonymous)]

We'll also talk at length about our need to take cold showers when said white men sexily convert oxygen into carbon dioxide. But that's different, that's expressing our sexuality in our safe space.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep. It's pretty much bad the whole way around, no matter who is doing it.

[(Anonymous)]

This

[(Anonymous)]

Ew.

That's a bit beyond creepy. If I were any of those ladies, I would feel genuinely violated.

[(Anonymous)]

If you were trying out for the role of Shae, you'd best get used to the idea that sweaty fanboys are going to be choking their weasels to your tit shots.

[(Anonymous)]

That sounds awfully victim blamey

[(Anonymous)]

No.

I can not believe this victim blaming bullshit!

If I go for an acting job, I should NOT expect sexual assault of this or any other degree FROM MY FUCKING EMPLOYER!!!

[(Anonymous)]

The women playing Shae is a porn star ffs. I don't think she'd care.

[(Anonymous)]

Bullshit. That bullshit logic is the kind of bullshit that leads people to think "You can't rape a prostitute because she sells it anyway"

Abuse is abuse regardless of who the victim is.

[(Anonymous)]

Better not try acting as a career then.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't know, I don't have a horse in this race and get that everyone says stuff like that. But to be fair, I think it's different to say stuff in a fandom, online setting than it is as a public statement. I say a lot of shit as anon, but it would seem grosser if I said them publicly as a celebrity. Bad PR at best, kinda bad judgment statement.

[(Anonymous)]

GRRM probably thinks of his livejournal the same way most people think of theirs -- just happens that he has a much, much bigger readership. Those readers are his fans, though. It's not like he said it in an interview that was then broadcast on a public channel.

Honestly, I find all this pearl clutching so ridiculous. Sex is sex is sex, most of us want it, we should be able to talk about it.

[(Anonymous)]

"I've just reviewed the tapes of twelve young women reading for the part of Shae.

Excuse me. I need to go take a cold shower now."

Hahaha oh wow, no wonder the episode he wrote for season 3 had that fucking terrible scene where Theon gets sexually assaulted by 2 attractive women (played off as titillating and focusing on their bodies of course), Talisa spending an entire scene naked, and tons of pointless sex talk. Dude really is a creepy old man.

[(Anonymous)]

That scene was fucking disgusting. But kinda was a good representation of the entire series, imo.

[(Anonymous)]

If you read that scene as sexual assault you're stupid. it's obviously supposed to be another mindfuck, USING Theons overly developed libido. He does want to bang them, because sex is one of his safe zones, where he's only ever had positive experience. (Plus he's a POV character, so we see their bodies through his lense, the way he sees women.) He is offered a chance of comfort, which is then completely twisted. Just like when jaime drank that "water" the Bolton-henchman guy offered him.
Yes, he is a prisoner, but no, they do not rape him. If a death row inmate is allowed a visit by a prostitute, it's not rape either. He could have refused them. What he could not refuse was castration.

The Talisa naked thing was eyecandy, sure. We do get some serious ass of Jaime somewhere 'round that too, though, the show's pretty balanced with that. I can very much appreciate her pretty, curvy, naked body. The way the sex was depicted, though, was the foreshadowy meaningful sex trope you often find when characters either die the next day, or get pregnant. It's not meaningless, it's how film communicates certain plot points.

[(Anonymous)]

lol of COURSE you took issue with the women being naked and not the fact that Theon was tortured and castrated