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I'm talking about the impulse, not the execution.

This is one of those things where I've never seen what's being complained about. I've never actually seen someone insist that their headcanon was canon. What I have seen is a lot of people going "well I guess you're free to think that if you want but remember it's definitely not canon" in this weirdly emphatic way when the person they're talking to has never claimed that it's canon.

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2014-01-11 10:51 pm (local)(link) Track This
That, and her song sounded like coming out.

Does sound pretty much like anon thinks it's the absolute truth.

That is not how I read that at all.

Then you give people a lot more leeway than I do. If it's written as a factual statement, it's meant to be a factual statement.

It's a factual statement of how they view the song. How it 'sounded'. it's not like they said 'how it was written' or 'its purpose in being performed' they just talked about how it sounded to them. Would you rather have had them write 'in my opinion'? Because I feel that should pretty much be taken as a given,

Yes, I think that'd have been mandatory if that is what they meant. As it is, it's not a factual statement of how they view the song. That information is missing.

Now you are just quibbling semantics.

There are some things that can be derived from a statement as being strongly implied, but a lot of Anons in this community seem incapable of being able to interpret those implied statements, even when they are obvious.

They aren't obvious to me. If you write "the sky is blue" I'm not going to assume you find that pretty just because you could have possibly meant that. That's not "quibbling semantics."

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Sounded does not mean absolute truth. Anon didn't say "that, and her song is about coming out" <- that is absolute truth. Anon is instead stating how they took it, then getting leaped on by assholes.please recheck your reading comprehension because all wank about this so far has always been people shitting on others for interpretating, identifying and headcanoning it as coming out.

People have interpretations. They're going to talk about their interpretation. Stop being an ass about it.

They didn't say "sounded to me," they said sounded as in "that's SO obvious duh, how can you not walk away having gotten that interpretation from that song." Which, eh.

DA I'm that anon.

This is absolutely NOT what I said and you shouldn't be putting words to my mouth.

That might not be what you wanted to say, but your phrasing is off in that case. If someone's stating something as a fact, I'm taking that to mean that was their intention.

I think everyone knows what you said except the anon being purposefully dense.

Intentions aren't easy to gather in text form. A "to me" may be audible in someone's intonation, but that doesn't exist in written form, does it.

so maybe instead of going off like a bomb because of your interpretation of what someone was saying (ha. irony.), try to interpret what people in text form say in the most positive way possible? will keep you from making an ass out of yourself AND lead to much happier conversations (probably).

Communication is a series of people coding and decoding messages. In the case of a movie, there's not even a single person coding. There are writers, composers, voice actors, animators and probably a few more I don't know about involved, so what you get is a heavily encoded message from several people, who were all unable to read minds and therefore may not be sending the precisely same message: Just the one they agreed on, where they all have their own interpretations (although they do have a more complete version of the message than arrives in the film).

Now, if someone says "it sounds like," they're describing the decoding process.

Guess what they would have to do if they were describing the process for anyone but themselves? They'd have to add a qualifier to explain who decodes the message this way, and they would probably want to discuss why that is the case.

That's not what happened tho.

Anon said that the song sounded like she was coming out, not that she was actually coming out.

What the hell. NO I never meant that.

They're not saying "Her song is a coming-out song". Only that it sounds like one.

You are exaggerating on purpose.

Wow, usually I get the other way around. I exaggerate and people take me completely seriously for some reason. Now I post something that sounds nothing like exaggeration to me and you're saying this? Weird.

All I can say is that I'm speaking the absolute truth. It may be a very different experience from what most people here have come across but it's my experience.

Sorry, that was a misfire...

I have, on tumblr.

I live on tumblr and I haven't seen that but I seem to have better luck on that site than anyone here on f!s

You must, lol. I've seen some INCREDIBLE shit on that site.

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