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⌈ Secret Post #2569 ⌋

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[The Little Mermaid]

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[Star Trek: The Next Generation]

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[Team Fortress 2 and The Adventures of Priscilla, Queen of the Desert]

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[Fresh Meat]

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[Attack on Titan / Shingeki no kyojin]

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[Skin Horse]

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[Jon Richardson/Sarah Millican]

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[Elementary]

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[Saint Young Men]

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[Game of Thrones]

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[Arrested Development]

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Well, her family was pretty "problematic" too, namely her dad was pretty damn controlling. She was reaching adulthood, and wanted to go out and see the world. The guy was the catalyst, but not the cause. Kids grow up and get their own lives, OP. That's not problematic, that's the way it's supposed to go.

+1 for mentioning the controlling dad.

King Triton scared me even more than Ursula as a kid with his bursts of anger.

Not to mention super racist. "My daughter? Date a HUMAN?? Like hell."

When did that happen?

Uhh, did you not watch the movie?

It's been a while, I just remembered him being upset because she had gone to the surface.

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(Anonymous) - 2014-01-15 04:16 (UTC) - Expand

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(Anonymous) - 2014-01-16 11:03 (UTC) - Expand

So apparently I'm the only one that thinks Triton had a point? Ariel is damn lucky she (and the other merpeople) didn't end up in a freak show style zoos, or being dissected in a lab, or being hunted when the humans found out about their existence.

Let's also not forget that fish are like people in the merpeople's world. It seems pretty bizarre to me that a mermaid would idolise a species that kills so many of her father's subjects. To me that would be kind of like a human idolising vampires (if they actually existed as a species), despite vampires killing millions of humans to eat every year.

Except fish eat fish too, which even mentioned in the animated series.

I'm pretty hazy on the animated series since I've not seen it since I was little, but from what I can remember the only fish that were mentioned to eat other fish were sharks, and they were feared and demonised by the merpeople for it.

It's not so much that he doesn't have a point as that he's a bully who destroys his daughter's possessions, among other things. If my dad pulled that shit I'm not sure I'd ever speak to him again, in any case going away from home would be like 200% more attractive to me then.

Oh I agree that the way he went about it was completely wrong, and actually more likely to drive Ariel towards humans too, but for people to say that he was being completely unreasonable (even racist?) at not wanting Ariel to date a human is a bit unfair, imo.

I can certainly see the side of "Triton's a bully who destroyed his daughter's things," but I think there's also room to see him as a father who the crack house his kid was frequenting.

This. His outburst made me mad as a little kid, and I think it's even worse now that I can think about why it bothers me so much. Nobody has the right to destroy someone else's possessions.

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diet_poison - 2014-01-17 00:32 (UTC) - Expand

Yeah but this is Disney so we can assume none of what you said is an issue in the movie's version of the world.

Well we did see the humans eating fish, so that at least certainly was an issue.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcyhVHrmlMU

...I'm not sure that counts as racism. Species-ism, maybe.

Dude, they are different species. How would you react if your daughter said that she wants to date a dog?

Is the dog intelligent enough to carry on a meaningful conversation with her?

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diet_poison - 2014-01-15 16:56 (UTC) - Expand

Given comparable intelligence, a human dating a mermaid is less like dating a dog and more like dating an alien.

(Anonymous) - 2014-01-15 10:23 (UTC) - Expand

This makes me wonder if the merpeople ever dated fish, or other sea life, since the fish seem to be considered equals to the merpeople in that world.

According to the animators/staff, Ariel's mother was killed by humans, so Triton has a very good reason for being wary of them.

This.

Triton is pretty damn scary in the scene where he wrecks all of Ariel's things.

One of the things I actually really like about this movie in retrospect is that Triton isn't controlling just for the sake of it--he's torn between his love for his daughter and his perceived duties as a patriarch (king, father, protector). And whenever the two come in conflict and he chooses the latter, he ends up fucking up all the shit. In the end Ariel isn't the only one who learns and grows as a person.

Seriously! Triton is such a DICK to Ariel--he destroys all her toys? WTF is wrong with him, who DOES that?