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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-18 03:10 pm

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diet_poison: (Default)

Re: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, not a disease." - quotes

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-01-18 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
It probably is one???? but it doesn't really matter because sex with kids hurts kids, full stop, and should not be allowed

and it will never make sense to put it on the same social level with homosexuality, etc. because it's NOT something that should be acted upon, ever.

ETA: I don't really care what you call it. "disorder" is actually probably a better word. my point is that yes, I think some people experience those attractions even if they don't want to, and I hope they all get help, but it should never ever be acceptable to act upon those desires.
Edited 2014-01-18 23:35 (UTC)
caerbannog: (Default)

Re: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, not a disease." - quotes

[personal profile] caerbannog 2014-01-18 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
+2

Frankly I don't care if it's a disease or orientation or whathaveyou. It will never be on the same level as adult sexuality. There's no proper consent or understanding. A person is hurting a child. Struggle and get help for it all you want, but once you start to act upon it all my sympathies are gone.

nyxelestia: Rose Icon (Default)

Re: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, not a disease." - quotes

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-01-19 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
This is actually why I hate classifying pedophilia as an orientation over a disease/disorder. A disease or disorder is something that can be treated, fixed, or at least managed. Orientation? Not so much.

Pedophilia - in terms of being attracted to small children - I'd say shouldn't be a default crime, if only because it's impossible for someone to get treatment for it if they have this attraction but do not want to harm kids. Child molestation - which is sex with a child, regardless of attraction - should be a crime...because it's an action, not what someone is thinking or feeling in their head.
agentcthulhu: knitted yellow-green cthulhu in black suit and sunglasses (Default)

Re: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, not a disease." - quotes

[personal profile] agentcthulhu 2014-01-20 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
Pedophilia - in terms of being attracted to small children - I'd say shouldn't be a default crime, if only because it's impossible for someone to get treatment for it if they have this attraction but do not want to harm kids. Child molestation - which is sex with a child, regardless of attraction - should be a crime...because it's an action, not what someone is thinking or feeling in their head.

Yep. Which is why I think there should be a distinction between people who have sexual attraction to children and people actively harms children to sate their desires. Also, I do not agree with thought policing or punishing people for having thoughts about something. Thoughts do not affect the physical plane but actions do. A child, once hurt, cannot be un-hurt. That's what punishments should address.
agentcthulhu: knitted yellow-green cthulhu in black suit and sunglasses (Default)

Re: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, not a disease." - quotes

[personal profile] agentcthulhu 2014-01-20 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
The question of pedophilia as a orientation or disorder has already be addressed by other users so I will not repeat the argument here. Let's talk about the social acceptability of admitting to being a pedophile instead.

The fact that the people on the receiving end of the sexual attraction cannot give consent is probably the biggest roadblock to pedophilia gaining widespread acceptance. However, I do think admitting to having said attraction should not automatically mean being put into a mental hospital or being segregated from society at large. I hope, with more people understanding that some pedophiles may have a medical basis for being the way they are, it will be more acceptable for people who do need help not hurting children to get the assistance they require.
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Re: "Pedophilia is a sexual orientation, not a disease." - quotes

[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-01-21 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
No no, I totally agree that it should be easier and less stigmatized to get help.

But I wouldn't be comfortable with people calling it an orientation on par with gay, straight, etc. It's not something people should be proud of or advertise, because it is dangerous to children and can lead to being harmful if you don't seek help.

It's kind of like having major anger issues (except more extreme). It should be okay to seek help and you shouldn't be hated or shunned for saying they have them, but it's also not something to be proud of because you don't ever want to get to the point where you are using it to justify things. It's not a neutral personality trait; it is a problem that needs to be fixed. and for full disclosure, I have anger problems/related personality issues.