[ SECRET POST #2576 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2576 ⌋

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Comments

[lynx]

But the books don't specify a non-human look for them o_o They're meant to be pudgy, short, with curly hair and furry feet. But Tolkien never said anything about them being ugly or having an outrageous look.

[(Anonymous)]

But only Sam was pudgy out of the five major hobbit characters. Bilbo looks normal and Merry, Pippin and Frodo are all downright skinny. I don't think they had to be ugly. I was thinking of some sort of small alteration like the Dwarf noses that makes me remember "Hey, he isn't supposed to be human."

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

Tolkien apparently also didn't like the idea of "Disneifying" Hobbits either, so I don't think he wanted them looking too silly. If anything, the best reference I think is to go back to that picture of Bilbo from Tolkien himself - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Bilbo_Baggins_Tolkien_illustration.jpg

[lynx]

I had never seen this, thanks for linking it! ^^ Maybe Freeman should've gained a few kilos for the role, but other than that, I don't see such a terribly different physical characterization.

[arcadiaego]

On the other hand, Sean Astin had an awful time filming up volcanoes and the like because he was uncomfortable having put weight on that he wasn't used to.

[(Anonymous)]

Interesting. The only thing about the new films is that Bilbo is the same size as the Dwarves, while in LOTR Dwarves were taller than hobbits. So I'm not sure if the mean Bilbo to be taller or the Dwarves shorter.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

I think it's more hobbits in general are a bit bigger in the movies than the books say - anything up to a foot taller. If anything, I'd be inclined to think they also scaled Dwarves up slightly, depending on what your preconceived notions of Dwarf heights are. I know my notions are very informed by Dungeons and Dragons, which, when you really look into it's history, is based on Tolkien.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought Gimli was a little too tall, too.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

The one thing I will say is that characters like Gimli, Dwalin and Thorin I think are intended to be tall for Dwarves anyway. They're the cultural equivalent of their actors, who are all over 6 foot tall.

[(Anonymous)]

For LotR, they filmed the hobbits and Gimli at the same scale, it's just that John Rhys Davies is noticably taller than the hobbit actors.

[(Anonymous)]

Really? I saw a height chart once that said the Dwarves were meant to be taller though I can't find it.

[(Anonymous)]

In one of the making-of featurettes, they mention that the height ratio between Davies and the hobbit actors was just right for the height difference between dwarves and hobbits. So, they could film Gimli nd the hobbits at one scale and the humans and elves at another. Gimli is taller than the hobbits and that's because Davies is taller than those four actors.

[(Anonymous)]

"For they are a little people, smaller than Dwarves: less stout and stocky, that is, even when they are not actually much shorter."

[(Anonymous)]

Huh, I haven't seen that pic for years! What strikes me is that the feet are human proportioned, whereas in the recent Hobbit movie I remember being quite startled by Bilbo's disproportionately large feet in the getting lost in Mirkwood scene.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

There is a mention in the book of FotR that the Proudfoot family are noted for having big feet, but somehow that idea got spread to all Hobbits and then made it into the movies.