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I'm going to apologize ahead of time for how provocative that sounds, but I've spent quite some time recently arguing about how adoptive siblings are still siblings (someone who insisted I was lying by calling that annoying kid in my doorway currently pestering me for gum my little brother when he found out our parents aren't married and we're not blood related at all). And my first glance into the thread shows we're already seeing "pseudo-incest" again, which may really just be an attempt to justify the pairing for those uncomfortable with incest but still smacks of the toxic "adoptive family =/= REAL family" attitude that so many of us despise for some very good reasons.

I'm not a fan of the incest, but I LOVE fics with their brotherly relationship being at the center of it, and any not-too-blatantly-shippy/sexual art about them. I can absolutely see why you love them so much, OP. Ship on! :D

Seriously, this. Everything you just said. And brother fics are the best.

I didn't comment in this thread before, but I've argued that the pairing is not 'really' incest elsewhere way back in the day when the first movie had just come out.
That had nothing to do with the fact that I don't consider adopted family or patchwork families as real family, or that I was squicked by Thor & Loki being brothers and somehow tried to justify shipping them to myself. It's just that where I live, a sexual relationship between siblings is only considered to *be* incest if they are either fully related by blood or half siblings, hence my initial confusion about fandom's insistence to call it incest despite the 'lack' blood relation.

Which is to tl;dr say I've been a dick about this back in the day out of ignorance and I'm sorry!

Can I ask where you live? Because as far as I'm aware the foundation for adoption laws are based on leaving no legal difference between an adopted sibling and a biological sibling, so it would mean the incest laws couldn't use the words 'brother', 'sister' or sibling' without specifying 'biologically-related' which sounds uncommon.

It annoys me, too. Even my own family (some of which is non-biological) will occasionally make comments about so and so not being whoever's "real" kid/sibling/whatever, and it really bothers me. I know in their case it's a purely semantic thing, and "real" is just shorthand for "biological" but I hate the implications.

My mom once referred to a family friend's adoptive daughter as "the little girl he's raising" and I'm like "...seriously?" The little girl he's raising? Also known as HIS DAUGHTER. Grrrr.

Of course when I mention this I'm just "reading too much into it" or "being too sensitive". :/

As someone mentioned above, I think it's not a matter of thinking (or not thinking or thinking less of) of people being siblings but not being blood related, or vice versa, in the case of incest making the difference to it being okay or not. I think it's more a question of where the squick lies for every individual. Some are more on the side that blood relation is more important (genetically speaking, yes, they should not have children), some are more on the side that the emotional connection is more important (because really, where do you draw the line when you're already emotionally involved in another way).

Personally I think that as long as the relationship is voluntary on both side and other people are not harmed (as in, they don't have children because even just speaking genetically it can be harmful), I'd say go for it. Of course, it again depends on where you draw the line, I realise there are actually very few situations in which incest can be something that is not unhealthy, physically or mentally.

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Yay? As long as you acknowledge it is incest.

Re: Yay? As long as you acknowledge it is incest.

Re: Yay? As long as you acknowledge it is incest.

Re: Yay? As long as you acknowledge it is incest.

Re: Yay? As long as you acknowledge it is incest.

Re: Yay? As long as you acknowledge it is incest.