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John winchester is a physically abusive drunk who is the worst father in the world.

Sure he wasn't the greatest dad but he did genuinely love his kids and all of the precautions he took were from a place of fear and love. Also while I can picture him being emotionally abusive I doubt that he was physically abusive.

There was a hint on that episode where it flashed back to Dean living in boy's home. Dean had bruises on his arm that he wouldn't talk about.

I kind of thought those came from a fight with a monster and so dean wouldn't talk about it because no one would believe him. I may be wrong though because I only watched that ep once...

I only watched that ep once too. Could've been either way. Personally, I can imagine John being abusive in the way where he grabs too hard or hits maybe once (not a full on beating). He seems the type of guy to find nothing wrong with a little physical violence or jerking a kid around.

I can fully see him spanking the kids or something if they've been naughty but I don't think he'd ever full on assault them (punches, kicks, slaps, etc.)

Either way its always going be hard to prove both sides because any bruises/ jumpiness that appear in flashbacks could be because of: 1) John being a dick
2)Monsters they were hunting 3)the training they were doing to hunt the monsters.

I'm pretty much done with the whole fanfiction trope of making fathers of the protagonists abusive drunks. It's like a new Rule.

If there is a father figure in media (television, movies, books, ect.), eventually they will be presented as an abusive drunk in a fanwork; if they have not already been depicted as such in the original media.

Yes this. I've started seeing a few drunk-abusive Sheriff Stilinski fics pop up in Teen Wolf which is just...so ugh. I mean people can write what they want, I'm not saying they shouldn't be allowed to write, I'll just scroll by but yeah.

I've come across a couple of those too. The sheriff may have hit the bottle after his wife died but I just can't see him being abusive.

Yup. And as a child of a functioning alcoholic can I say that I am just really fed up with alcoholic = out of control abusive parent? Alcoholism comes in many forms (as does abuse) and I think it's just lazy writing to go for the stereotype abuser.

DA--wow, you put it into words. The problem with disputing the whole alcoholic parent=stereotypically abusive parent thing is that I'm never sure if any particular fic writer is writing what they know, or as a form of therapy, or both. Just because my alcoholic parents didn't beat the crap out of me doesn't mean random fic writer's parent didn't, you know? Same thing with drugs. Both my parents were various kinds of addict, and my mom hit me once (for slapping her in the face) and my dad picked me up and slammed me against the kitchen counter because I wouldn't eat my dinner a couple of times, but he wasn't any kind of addict at the time, just a controlling asshole. He actually got less abusive when he started drinking and doing drugs. Neither of them ever did worse than that and I wasn't screamed at or threatened. The worst thing the surviving one does is forget to pay the bills because their memory's shot. But I tend to just scroll on past the dramatic 'I was beaten within an inch of my life every day' fanfic, because maybe it's someone else's coping mechanism, but lots of times I don't see it fitting the characters.

They make me sad and seem extremely OOC. I scowl and scroll past them as well.

(Though I agree, of course people should be allowed to write them, they just irritate me; Sheriff Stilinski is one of my favorite dads on tv.)

With John Winchester there is not as far to go as with many, especially as he was definitely at least occasionally drunk and it's difficult to argue with the emotional abuse.

Worse is the fics where they make him in to somebody that sexual abuses Dean. You could make an argument for physical/emotional abuse, but pedophile who rapes his own son? No, just... no.

Fandom can make anybody into anything.

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