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⌈ Secret Post #2580 ⌋

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Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[(Anonymous)]

Which are the most annoying examples of this for you?

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[kaijinscendre]

That John Watson would be a depressed woobie when Sherlock was gone after reichenbach.

That Castiel as a human is completely helpless.

That Stiles would be a wilting flower during sex.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[forgottenjester]

That Stiles would be a wilting flower during sex.

Whut. I am laughing too hard at this.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[dreemyweird]

No, Yeshua Ha-Notsri is NOT JESUS. No, Bulgakov did not stick a different name on him for the sake of being mysterious and random. Yes, it does have a purpose. Go away.

Also, when I ask people if they remember who Irene Adler was and hear them answer "ah, yes, this woman Holmes was in love with", I want to blow something up out of sheer helplessness.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[(Anonymous)]

No, Yeshua Ha-Notsri is NOT JESUS. No, Bulgakov did not stick a different name on him for the sake of being mysterious and random. Yes, it does have a purpose. Go away.

Are you referring to The Master and Margarita? Because I thought Yeshua Ha-Notsri was the Russian transliteration for 'Jesus the Nazarene'? I've never seen another interpretation for it. Given that the conversation at the Patriarch Ponds was about Berlioz wanting the poet to disprove Jesus' existence in his writing, followed immediately by the Devil showing up to point out that this might not be their best move, I thought we were supposed to come to the conclusion of Jesus.

I'm also not completely sure of the etymology, but I thought that the English 'Jesus' comes from the Greek 'Iesous', and that 'Yeshua' was possibly the original Hebrew from which that Greek derived, although I think that is contested some.

Agreed on Irene, though.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[(Anonymous)]

The XMFC fandom does this really bizarre thing with Charles Xavier. The best way I can think of to describe it is kind of like turning him into a stereotypical uke in a crappy yaoi manga (which also tends to go along with turning Magneto into a stereotypical seme).

Also, when they portray him as a nice person who has never done anything assholeish or morally wrong. No, just no. Professor Xavier is a jerk.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[(Anonymous)]

McAvoy's huge soulful blue eyes may have contributed to that.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[queerwolf]

Stiles as Pack Mom. I have others for Teen Wolf, but that's the biggest one.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[fingalsanteater]

Vulcans don't feel.

Dean is stupid. (Though the writers tend to forget this isn't true too.)

Peeta is useless. (As much as I enjoy joking about his *strongbad voice* skills of an artist, he's not useless.)

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[(Anonymous)]

(about post-Avengers fic) MCU Thor being all happy and jolly and carefree. I know, it sounds natural given his general personality and comics!Thor, but given the actual situation with Loki and what Thor's been doing since the movie Thor, I don't think he'd be very jolly and lighthearted. Maybe months/years later on, but not soon.

(mostly adaptations, but also some fics) canon!Watson as stuffy, prudish, or generally a reluctant partner who Holmes has to drag along with him. Not only does it not have any canon basis, but his behavior in canon actually diametrically contradicts it multiple times. And given that the stories are loaded with all kinds of lurid scandalous behavior and sex, I can't see anyone prudish writing them, even if he hadn't publicly quantified how much tail he got.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[(Anonymous)]

John winchester is a physically abusive drunk who is the worst father in the world.

Sure he wasn't the greatest dad but he did genuinely love his kids and all of the precautions he took were from a place of fear and love. Also while I can picture him being emotionally abusive I doubt that he was physically abusive.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[(Anonymous)]

Every time a male character with an unrequited crush is unfairly labeled a Nice Guy, I have to sit on my hands.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[neonlovechicken]

That Loki is an insecure woobie whose only goal in life is to be loved my his dad and bro and Captain America blushes every 5 seconds.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[(Anonymous)]

L from Death Note is a nice, quirky guy who is silly, sweet, and "good".
Just, what show were you watching?

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[caerbannog]

I like woobie!Loki but then there was too much woobie!Loki and now I don't.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[cakemage]

Well, I remember this one fic wherein Janeway had this internal monologue going and one of the lines was "I'm crying inside, and nobody knows it but me." And it was supposed to be taken seriously. I laughed so hard I almost choked, but it did make me think of how (in the J/7 fandom, at least) that line pretty much sums up how a lot of fanfic writers characterize her, while in those same fics Seven often gets written as this saintly, innocent woobie and their pure love and magic vaginas heal their deep, soul-crushing angst.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[dethtoll]

I absolutely hate it when people write Batman as a Miller-esque psychopath. The Dark Knight Returns is overrated shit for 17 year old neckbeards, guys. Dennis O'Neil and Alan Grant were the real influence on the modern Batman, not Miller.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[(Anonymous)]

Legolas is not Aragorn's battered wife and has not borne his children.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[forgottenjester]

That Scott McCall is stupid and a bad friend.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[tabaqui]

The 'Gen/Daneel are tiny and terrifying' trope in SPN fandom.
The same 'small but terrifying' thing happens in Teen Wolf with Lydia and Allison. That any of the boys in those fandoms would/will do *anything* for them/because of them because they are 'terrifying'. ARRGH.

I detest that.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[thezmage]

I don't know if this counts, but when Glinda tells Dorothy that only bad witches are ugly, it doesn't mean tht attractive witches can't be evil, just that good witches are attractive. So when she asks Dorothy if she's a good witch or a bad witch, it's because Dorothy is not ugly that she asks that

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[blunderbuss]

That Belle has stockholm syndrome. Have these fuckers ever watched the movie? Did they not see that she NEVER put up with the Beast's shit and only started falling for him AFTER he started to change himself as a person? And even as she started liking him SHE STILL LEFT to find her dad?

Oh, and that the Beast is just an abusive monster. He was a kid that was cursed into a hideous beast and left alone in a cursed castle for god knows how long. He's probably half insane. But even as bad as he is, he comes to realise he needs to change as a person and then he does - do you not see the big goddamn hint of the beast in the ripped cape turning into the beast in a formal suit ballroom dancing? SYMBOLISM, HELLO.

That Jean from Attack On Titan will never ever ever ever get over Marco's death and will die alone because they were SO IN LOVE. I like the pairing too, but for fuck's sake, Jean is FIFTEEN. He WILL eventually move on. (Assuming he survives the series.)

And right now the Dumbing Of Age fandom is pissing me right the fuck off with how much they shit on Danny. Danny's a bit of a dumb bulb, sure, but he's being constantly used and lied to and kept in the dark, but apparently everything is still his fault. People are shitting on him right now because a friend's parent, who is an abuser with years of experience, is manipulating him. HOW DARE HE NOT KNOW WHAT THE AUDIENCE KNOWS!

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[blunderbuss]

Oh man I forgot about Jason Todd. LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT JASON TODD EVERYONE.

1. He is not an angry little punk. He had some serious issues from being a street kid and losing his parents, but who the fuck wouldn't? Bruce had his own moments of anger before he became Batman. But Jason was a kid who didn't want to be a criminal or a bad person, foiled crimes on his own, and dedicated himself to being Robin. He liked school! He even helps Batman with a case because of something he learned on a field trip! He could be a really nice and sweet little kid goddammit.

2. According to DC and the fans, he died because he was too angry and willfill and DISOBEYED BATMAN. IT'S ALL HIS FAULT THAT HE'S DEAD. How in the fuck so many people decided to blame the violent death of a teenage kid ON THE KID is just messed up. You know why he died? Because he wanted to help his mother so badly that he told her he was Robin and she sold him out to the Joker. Even then he did everything he could to save her.

3. Post-resurrection Jason Todd is really goddamn messed-up in the head. I will never dispute this. He has a million issues and a few semi-reasonable grievences but holy shit does he express them in some of the worst ways possible. But I fucking HATED how DC just turned him into yet another psychotic villain who shoots kids and tries to kill members of the Batfamily for the cowl. He might hate his family for what he feels they did to him, but he hates them because he LOVES them so much that he's hurt by their betrayal. He might have beaten the shit out of Tim out of sheer spite but I will never accept Jason wanting to kill any of them.

4. SHUT UP ABOUT JASON LOVING BREAD. A brain-damaged teenager breaks into a bakery for some food and fandom thinks he loves bread. Yeah, fucking hilarious.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[(Anonymous)]

Star Trek: TOS

Absolutely HATE IT that in so much fic Bones is somehow the weakest of the three due to spending all his time WORRIED about Jim and Spock and powerless to do anything about it, constantly drunk and all ANGSTY that his friends like each other. [This is usually done for shipping reasons; I could deal with 80% of fic being Kick/Spock but this side effect is RIDICULOUS.] Also, when they over-exaggerate his distaste for the transporter into a full-blown phobia.

Damnit, he's a bad-ass doctor, not a teenager!

P.S. Just because he's the only one who has relatives whose names we know [well, that aren't immediately killed off or forgotten forever] does NOT mean he spends all his time on the enterprise being super depressed about how he can't see them. For fuck's sake, he's a middle-aged man who made a life choice to leave home for a limited amount of time not a kid at camp who suddenly thinks he'll never see mommy again when its dark.

Re: Irritating misinterpretations of characters in fandom and/or adaptations

[pantswarrior]

Muraki in Yami no Matsuei. Seriously, I have no idea what is with some of the fangirls, who think that his relationship with Tsuzuki is cute and Hisoka hates him because he's jealous that Tsuzuki likes him back.

Muraki is a SERIAL MURDERER AND RAPIST. Tsuzuki may be disarmed and thrown off balance by his seeming interest, but it's pretty obvious that just being GIVEN CANDY or something is not going to make him decide that he should give a relationship with Muraki a try, as I have seen in multiple fics. Tsuzuki HATES Muraki, just not quite as much as he hates himself. And Hisoka is not "jealous" - MURAKI RAPED AND MURDERED HISOKA. I think that's a pretty valid reason to hate someone and not want them around your partner!

For that matter, Muraki may have wound up finding Tsuzuki attractive, but his obsession with him started because he's got an apparently immortal body that Muraki can potentially behead, graft the head of his dead brother onto, and kill repeatedly. He just wants to molest Tsuzuki first because he's also pretty.

I DO NOT UNDERSTAND why people insist on writing FLUFF with Muraki/Tsuzuki or even pretending that they could ever have anything like a sane consentual relationship.

(Really I'm not sure anyone in that canon could ever have a healthy relationship with anyone, but that's why I like playing with it. Just, you know, I don't try to pretend that any of them are actually anything approaching sane and healthy.)