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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-01-31 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #2586 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2586 ⌋

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kaijinscendre: (Default)

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-02-01 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't really call that inconsistent? He was also tricked by Moriarty the first time he saw him (Jim from IT). He knew she was a liar but I highly doubt, "Trained assassin" would be anywhere on the list of what she may be lying about.

Hell, I am more surprised that Mycroft did not know.
Edited 2014-02-01 00:16 (UTC)
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[personal profile] misty_anon 2014-02-01 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. The vast majority of people who lie about things (sometimes quite innocuous things) don't turn out to have stolen their identity from a gravestone. It was far more likely that she'd be lying about having no family or being single or something.
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[personal profile] fenm 2014-02-01 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
He was also tricked by Moriarty the first time he saw him

He saw Jim for five minutes at most. He knew Mary long enough to help plan the wedding. Not really the same thing.
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Oh, yes

[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2014-02-01 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yes to this, but at this point I'm hoping there's either a long game being played or Tumblr hasn't giffed enough of the show so I've missed something.

Re: Oh, yes

(Anonymous) 2014-02-01 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Tumblr hasn't giffed enough of the show so I've missed something.

This is also my conclusion.
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-02-01 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
But nothing even pinged on his radar about Jim. He knew that Mary was lying about something. But again, most people don't think TRAINED ASSASSIN when they know someone is lying.
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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-02-01 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
But he completely did know about Mary. Well, not completely - but he had a good idea right from the first time they met.

I watched ep 1 of series 3 again because that was the big thing that annoyed me about it. When Mary said she liked Sherlock, my first reaction was - what sane woman would like Sherlock? That's completely unbelieveable.

And yes, on a re-watch, Sherlock picked that up immediately.

If he didn't go away and research her immediately after he deduced she was a 'liar' and a woman strangely comfortable with violence and danger, that it would be extremely out of character for him. Everything else was just confirmation after that - he didn't reveal it until ep 3 as he didn't want to upset John.

As for Mycroft, that's a better question. Did he know about Mary long ago or did he just not care? Perhaps Mycroft even planted or nudged her?
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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2014-02-01 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
I think Sherlock was more upset about John being mad. And he was happy that Mary was trying to help him out.
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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-02-01 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
Did you watch it again since you saw ep 3? Because that's what I assumed the first time I saw ep 1/2, that Sherlock was just relieved that John would still work with him because Mary said yes.

But then I watched it the second time around he and saw it differently. It very much looked like Sherlock worked Mary out early, then gleefully knew for most of the series.
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[personal profile] zelda_dragon 2014-02-01 01:35 am (UTC)(link)
I watched those two episodes last night, and I agree wholeheartedly with you.

I haven't seen the new episode yet so I just spoiled myself completely here, but it seemed very much like he figured her out when they first met, and right away - he just didn't say anything (whether to spare John or for some other reason). I figured it would be used as a plot device later.
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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-02-01 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
The problem was that the first time I watched episode 1 & 2 it just felt like bad writing. Why was Mary so accepting of Sherlock? Why was he so accepting of her? Why did Mary have all these superpowers (knowing codes, weird memory skills)? It seemed like the writers were pandering to make her likeable.

I almost wish I'd spoiled myself because it annoyed me so much. The one thing I expected from BBC Sherlock was intelligent writing.

I do still think it was a bad writing decision to have that build-up for 3 whole episodes before the payoff - not because viewers couldn't take it, but because it made the writing look irretrievably bad in the run-up.
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[personal profile] zelda_dragon 2014-02-01 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
Also agreed - especially with episode 2.

I think the main reason I was able to catch it so easily is because I've been snowed in for four days and basically marathoned Sherlock over and over so it was all fresh from the beginning. I noticed a very slight hesitation in his brain "check-list" when he looked over Mary the first time, and it was like he forced himself to stop when he got to a certain point, something he hadn't really done before as far as we viewers know.

It seemed odd and out of character, even if he was trying to spare John's feelings, because he's admitted himself that he doesn't exactly have the ability to stop himself from saying hurtful things to people (even if not in so many words). I can also understand Sherlock's worry that John would leave him after the marriage, but that still doesn't explain why he was suddenly so accepting of her when he's usually so aloof with everyone else.

And yeah, her abilities and immediate acceptance of Sherlock in return were weird, too. Sure, she may have just liked him to please John, and that would have been cool of her. But the way she just immediately jumped to his defense after coming back from the dead was very fishy indeed. They had never met before!

Annnd...I have not had anyone else to talk with about any of this, so you were my ear there. Sorry.
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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-02-01 03:23 am (UTC)(link)
No, me too. I haven't had anyone to discuss this with.

I liked the scene where they're doing the seating for the wedding because with hindsight, Sherlock knows, but Mary doesn't know he knows. So it's a lot funnier second time around. First time round, it's just odd and a bit woobiefying that Sherlock is getting so involved.

There's that whole part where Sherlock asks Mary if she wants to know who hates her on the wedding guest list. He finds this amusing because he knows Mary is not playing herself. So they're hating a fake person. It's the kind of thing that tickles his sense of humour. But Mary doesn't know that Sherlock knows yet, so she's assessing his offer for a moment to see what it really means.

The first time it plays like Sherlock's just being his usual socially inept/uncaring self. The second time it is much funnier. And sweeter, as Sherlock is genuinely trying to amuse Mary, rather than just making a thoughtless offer.