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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-09 03:54 pm

[ SECRET POST #2595 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-02-09 09:26 pm (UTC)(link)
"Viking metal" sounds so fucking AWESOME (as in, the title, I've never heard any samples). I am disappointed if this is racist.

Though that reminds me of a news article about ethnic nationalism in Scandinavian countries. I think I've heard that they use Vikings for their racism, which is sad, because I legitimately like Viking history (and I'm of Norwegian descent).
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[personal profile] chronophage 2014-02-09 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Viking metal IS fucking awesome and not all bands are racist.
Here's a great band from the Faroe islands that have lyrics about Norse mythology and sagas:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SXjF9po2hYk

I think anti-Christian views are more prevalent than anything in viking metal bands than racism, anyway.

Edit: Heidevolk is p. mythology/nature based in the lyrical content too. TL;DR: Not all viking metal bands are pompous dicks, here's another rec:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBpDom4QWHE
Edited (yay more content) 2014-02-09 21:46 (UTC)
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-02-09 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Can you rec some of the anti-Christian ones? I'm a Christian but I like hearing criticisms and I've been wanting to look into more metal in general too. Though I usually prefer symphonic metal.
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[personal profile] chronophage 2014-02-09 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm kind of in a haze this morning and not totally in access of my full mental database of weird metal bands, but recall that Finntroll has a song about killing a monk or friar or something. Then there's this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fu2bgwcv43o

It's mostly anti-Christian in that they were pissed that the Christians came to their land and started trying to people. I'm not sure if the bands actually practice a pagan religion or if they just use classic paganism as lyrical content.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-02-09 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks! I hope the haze passes soon. I get like that sometimes too.
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[personal profile] chronophage 2014-02-09 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it's mostly that I don't have my glasses on (and somehow, lack of vision always equates to lack of mental ability for me).

I've also just kind of fallen out of love with a lot of the more theatrical folk metal bands and no longer retain as much information about them. Once you listen to enough styles of metal I swear the only genres you're capable of listening to is the really weird shit.
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[personal profile] sarillia 2014-02-09 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
"The really weird shit" describes my taste in like everything. Books, movies, music. Not that I don't like other stuff too but I always get people commenting on how weird the stuff I read and watch and listen to is.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-10 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Finntroll does that whole thing, but on the other hand their whole act is basically musical troll roleplay in which the band members are singins as trolls fighting for their land against the christians coming to eradicate them, so I'm willing to give them the benefit of them being characters and not actually holding those views. As far as you know, are they actually like that behind the characters?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-09 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Omggg I am so excited about the idea of metal Norse sagas/mythology. Ahhhh!
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[personal profile] chronophage 2014-02-09 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
There's a lot more where that came from, I hope you enjoy it!

BTW if you look into more bands through genre styles, the folk, pagan, and viking metal genres are usually pretty interchangeable.

One of my favourite bands actually has lyrics (in Gaulish) about Gaulish history and the Gaulish wars. (not Viking but still really neat)
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-02-09 09:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Absolutely more prevalent, and a lot of that is because of its roots in black metal. Norway had a spate of church burnings in the 80s and early 90s that were perpetrated by the black metal scene at the time.
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-02-10 12:36 am (UTC)(link)
The black metal scene isn't much better, just less church burnings of late...
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-02-10 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
The black metal scene are a bunch of regressive assholes. The best thing to happen to black metal was Darkthrone stopped taking it seriously.
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[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-02-10 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I just don't enjoy their Vigrid and other racist groups ties, and the fact that they are prone to doing illegal stuff, I don't actually know much about the music itself, only what follows.

I assume that not all black metal (or any Metal) bands are like that...
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-02-10 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
The metal scene in general is prone to jackassery (it's why I got out of it) but the BM scene... even the non-racist segment has had its share of heinous shit. :/
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-02-09 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Some of it is, some of it isn't. The thing to remember is that a lot of viking metal, and indeed black and death metal in general, come out of Scandinavia, which has some long-running nationalist movements.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-10 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
I want to toss a rec for Sig:Ar:Tyr in here, even though they're from Canada...