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You know, I used to see it that way, because I had never taken drugs, smoked or been drunk (so I couldn't empathize at all) until people reminded me that drug addiction is an illness. Once you've been addicted, you're addicted for life. It's not like an addict can turn it off. The brain is forever re-wired to the addiction.

I'm not trying to defend Jared here at all (in fact I don't like him much), but you just admitted to thinking the same way once upon a time. Maybe he is at the same stage you once were?

It definitely is an insensitive tweet, but it always raises my hackles a bit when people are all outraged over celebrities saying stuff that many people outside the internet bubble also wouldn't know/have wrong ideas about.
Not specifically talking about Jared here, but the internet tends to make celebrities into monsters over an offhand comment quite often these days. (Especially when there are words involved that many people don't know are considered offensive)

Jared's in his thirties, he should know at least a little about the world. He's also a father, and being so callous about something like addiction is usually a bad sign there.

Mental illness, outside of fairly isolated parts of the internet, is seen in exactly this way. It's not just addiction either. For me, as a mentally ill person (although others will obviously feel different about it), I have long since given up on the notion of getting mad over people believing this story they grew up with.

Heck, I did for the longest time, and it was incredibly damaging to me.

I just hope someone educated him on the tail end of that particular tweet, but I wouldn't count on it.

In the case of heroin addiction, it's a 100% preventable and avoidable illness involving a substance that could not have been acquired in any legal way for any legitimate use, nor is it socially acceptable with the accompanying peer pressure. You can't get a prescripton for the stuff or buy it at the corner store; you have to obtain it from a criminal, and it's hardly a secret that it's extremely addictive, dangerous and potentially lethal (in the abrupt "found belly-up in the restroom in a pool of one's own vomit" way.)

All of this makes it a lot harder for me to sympathize with than someone who accidentally got hooked on, say, Vicodin, or even cigarettes. Though I disagree with Jared about it being sad, and I do think the remark was made too soon and too publically, I have to agree it's a ridiculously stupid way to die.

It's true that heroin cannot be obtained legally. However, there are many, many cases of people turning to heroin after becoming hooked on legal opioids and having their supply cut off (such as doctors refusing to continue the prescription).

In fact, the recent uptick in heroin usage is closely correlated with tighter restrictions on painkillers. We're finding that people who were using pills and can no longer get them are turning to heroin.

There's no way to know if this was the case with Hoffman. Given what I know, it seems he would have first tried in in the '80s, and the landscape was a bit different then. However, it is important to note that a heroin habit is not always 100% avoidable in the way that you claim. It can, in fact, start with a legitimate prescription for a legitimate drug.

This. Alcoholism I can understand, because it's a legal substance and something is a) socially acceptable to consume and b) perfectly harmless to the vast majority of people who consume it. Prescription drugs I can understand, because those are prescribed for legitimate reasons. But with illegal drugs, you not only know that they are illegal and dangerous, you have to go out of your way to get your hands on them illicitly.

I just can't fathom why anyone would even WANT to try them when it's widely known how dangerous and destructive they are.

Largely because their lives are already dangerous and destructive and they feeling like they have nothing more to lose with drugs, and a comforting numbness and temporary pleasure to gain. I mean, it's very uncommon for people who are mentally and emotionally happy and in a stable environment to be like "welp, I'm going to take these drugs repeatedly and ruin my body and life because fuck it".

...and an addiction to prescription drugs can lead to heroin use.

Seriously. As I said above, the problem we're seeing with tighter restrictions on pills is that the people with dependencies are turning to heroin, because it's in the same class of drugs and it's now cheaper and easier to obtain.

An opioid is an opioid is an opioid. We still give people morphine drips for fuck's sake. And this attitude that it's completely incomprehensible why someone would try heroin after being prescribed and getting hooked on painkillers with similar ingredients is not. Helping.

I just can't fathom why anyone would even WANT to try them when it's widely known how dangerous and destructive they are.

Lucky you, huh?

I don't wish on people to understand how mental illness works - and addiction is exactly that. Because that's fucked up, that's really fucked up - you can't understand it unless you've felt some form of it yourself.

But for fuck's sake, be a little respectful. Do a little research. Get off your bloody high horse.

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