[ SECRET POST #2601 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2601 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

07. http://i.imgur.com/BkrVKSi.png

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I agree with you there.

Fandoms that have a heavy reliance on sprites or dollmakers for their fanart tend to have less quality fanart. While there's some really good fanart out there for say Sonic or MLP, I'd say a bigger percentage of it is crap.

[ex_mek82]

As an aside note, the BadSonicFanart Twitter account is glorious.

[mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com]

At least dollmakers can result in a half-decent picture where trying to do it by hand would just be a horrible mess.

I rarely trust myself to draw fanart and not ruin it. Dollmakers are good for my OC and semi-OC RP characters.

[neonlovechicken]

Um, I recall being very disappointed in s&h fic, though, that one time I tried to read some. Writing was good, but the characterization was terrible by my personal standards of how I think men should be written. I calculated the right age (of the authors I like) is somewhat in a range around my age of about 5 or 6.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure you mean that you like writers who are within 5 or 6 years of your age, but that reads like both you and the writers you like are around 5 or 6 years old lol

[rubbertea]

I don't think age plays that big a role in quality when it comes to art. I've seen people's skills improve with age but I've also seen thirty-something adults whose drawings look like my three-year-old cousins'.

[(Anonymous)]

when it comes to art, sure. but most teenagers trying to write fic from the pov of a 40+ year old character is honestly painful.

[badass_tiger]

I think what it basically boils down to is that you get better with experience. So those who are older are more likely to be better because they have more experience. Of course, I've seen a twelve year old whose graphics were so excellent, she sent the 20-somethings running away crying, but it is generally like that.

[ex_mek82]

I do think certain fandoms/series pull in skilled creative types, yeah. I wouldn't have a clue as to what those points of attraction would be, though. But in fairness, Sturgeon's Law can be in every fandom: you can find some amazing stuff for Homestuck, Sherlock, and Transformers, yeah; but you'll probably find twice as much... subpar stuff, too.

I can't really comment on fic much, since I hardly read fan fic these days, though.

[(Anonymous)]

Bigger fandoms tend to be better too.

[sporkly]

I think it's more that they have a bigger pool of people making stuff than anything else. So you get to choose from a pool that has "oh god, my eyes" to "oh damn that's amazing" where as the smaller fandoms don't have that range.

And it's easier to follow the people who make the good stuff in larger fandoms.

[littlestbirds]

well kinda. more people means more skilled people. more crap too, though, so sturgeons law still applies.

[(Anonymous)]

not necessarily. I'm reading for a small book/movie that has a high ratio of goodfic.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, it's really just a numbers game. Bigger fandom = more potential talent.

[diet_poison]

You might be right, and your theory doesn't necessarily preclude the application of Sturgeon's Law to fandom in general.

The way I see it is, I feel like bigger fandoms have better fanart but that's really just because there's MORE of it, and the better stuff is more highly rated and easier to find. It's more frustrating in smaller fandoms. But the proportions may or may not be the same.

...DO people get butthurt over this? I always thought it was obvious.

[nyxelestia]

I mean, I probably found the same number/amount of good, quality fics in both Harry Potter and House MD fandoms when I was in them at the same time, even though the latter was much, much smaller than the former.

Most fandoms tend to lean a certain way based on the targeted audience demographics (i.e. Merlin fandom has a lot of literary-style and historical fanfics, Sherlock had a lot of underworld and urban fantasy fanfics, etc). Heck, even the fandoms that ended up having a broad-spectrum audience (i.e. MCU/Avengers) have their own bent - so much variety, the fandom at large ends up leaning in a very tropey direction, though in most situations it still breaks down further (i.e. even though Thor is now firmly sci-fi/aliens, most people still tend to write Thor fics as fantasy and/or 'godly').

Re: ...DO people get butthurt over this? I always thought it was obvious.

[(Anonymous)]

The House fandom had some of the best writers, imho. Some ships had a larger percentage of great writers, but they all had at least a few. Then Huddy became canon, the entire fandom was overrun by seventeen year old girls, and the fandom went to shit faster than the show :(

[(Anonymous)]

I always thought SGA had good fic writers. Most have moved on but there were some seriously good pieces back in the day. Of course there was a heavy dosing of really badfic too.

[(Anonymous)]

Disagree. I'm in two fandoms where the average age is about the same one has much better fanart than the other. I don't know enough about fandoms to say exactly why this is, but it's definitely nothing to do with age.

[blunderbuss]

I admit to being guilty of this. I was spoiled by having small-but-mature fandoms and I foolishly thought that getting into a huge one will still have enough good stuff to keep me happy. Hello there, culture shock.

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[(Anonymous)]

Eh, it's a tradeoff. Older fandoms often have much more high quality content. BUT, they also have a "history," and a lot of BNFs, and often a much less welcoming (sometimes even downright unkind) attitude towards newer fans.

The Professionals (70s British show - one of the big early slash fandoms) was known as a fandom that "ate its young." http://fanlore.org/wiki/The_Professionals

I think there must be benefits to starting out in a relatively new fandom, where anything can go. It just depends what you want to get out of a fandom and contribute to it.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't get it, either. They can be upset all they like, but it's the truth. In fact, I recently moved from one fandom that has an incredible amount of great fanworks to one that's bigger, but the amount of bad stuff is shocking. The old fandom is mostly people above college age. The new fandom is the reverse.

So, I feel you, OP!

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, fandoms with older fans usually have better fanworks, at least technically speaking.

But just because someone has a good grasp of grammar doesn't mean their stories are actually good or that their characterization is good or... etc.

[(Anonymous)]

I completely agree.