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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-23 03:55 pm

[ SECRET POST #2609 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2609 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, it's almost like she lives in an abusive environment and probably thinks that violence is normal. OH WAIT.

(Also, that cat was evi. His name was LUCIFER. He did things to deliberately make her life difficult. And also sweeping a cat away won't really hurt the animal.)

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Cats always make life difficult doesn't mean they're evil

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 09:46 pm (UTC)(link)
No, but that cat was actually evil though? Like, he was a villain? Have you not seen the movie?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Cats are always evil in old Disney movies. It's really kind of terrible.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
allow me to introduce you to the Aristocats
loracarol: (spg)

[personal profile] loracarol 2014-02-23 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
To be fair, that's not really an old Disney movie. Maybe a middle-aged one, but not "old" I don't think?
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[personal profile] spacebabie 2014-02-24 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
Figaro in Pinocchio was nice.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 05:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Late to the party, but it cropped up in a lot of the movies probably because of the situation (like having mice protagonists for example). If you look back at the old shorts, there were plenty of cat characters who were friends with Mickey. Probably the only reason they didn't get named is because of Felix. The main recurring character in the Alice shorts was a cat, for example. Disney didn't have any dislike of cats, it just sort of turned out that way in the writing. (Aristocats was actually created to address the problem because they, like you, realized they had to many cat villains.)

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Besides the scene where they ripped off her dress, when was it implied there was violence in the home?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
you are really slow aren't you?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
So you can't answer the question then?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
So, aside from the time they physically assault her and destroy her possessions, when do we get the notion that they could possibly maybe be violent?

Dunno.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
Except she was wearing their stuff, that's why they ripped it off.

And the stepmother was emotionally abusive, but there was nothing to suggest she was physically abusive. Early in the movie, she thinks Cinderella intentionally put one of the mice in her sister's teacup as a "vicious joke," and by punishing her she makes her do more chores.

If they wanted to imply she had actually hit Cinderella before, that would have been the time to do it.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
Emotionally abusive IS abusive. They forced her to be their slave. There were scenes of physical violence.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
And no one's saying they weren't emotionally abusive. My problem was with the "probably thinks that violence is normal" bit.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
da

But anon is asking if they were actually physically abusive, or if the anons here are blatantly misremembering. They were emotionally abusive, yes, but I don't know where you got that anon was denying that? Was she beaten or something? don't think so..

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 05:37 am (UTC)(link)
Ripping off a person's clothes is pretty physically abusive, even if it doesn't involve hitting. It's a violation of a person's body/personal space, and considering how she was thrown around during the scene, yeah, it was physical.

And toll-non pointed out that she "was wearing their stuff" like that had any bearing on it. Abusers always have a justification for their abuse. "She made me do it" is a classic.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-24 07:51 am (UTC)(link)
because you said " destroy her possessions" when they weren't hers, she was wearing their items without their permission.

and are you saying that them ripping her clothes off was a regular thing?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-23 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's still kind of funny to me that part of the reason the stepmother is so insidious is that she doesn't appear outwardly evil, and yet she NAMED HER CAT AFTER SATAN.

Like, "dear Cinderella's father, what were you thinking??"