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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-02-27 07:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #2613 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2613 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Mass Effect]


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[Katy Perry]


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[Dangan Ronpa]


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[Wayne's World]


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[Starsky & Hutch]


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[Supernatural/Silent Hill]


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[Hideo Kojima]


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[Spirited Away]


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[The Walking Dead]


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[Breaking Bad]


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[Syfy's Helix]


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[Silent Hill]


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[Twisted]
















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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-28 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
DA

I think they mean that it would be more natural to assume that a blond super-white guy would be less likely to be named something like "Starsky" than the dark-haired, dark-skinned guy.

[identity profile] galerian-ash.livejournal.com 2014-02-28 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but that's the thing -- Paul Michael Glaser (Starsky) isn't dark-skinned at all. He's just as white as David Soul (Hutch). The only difference is the hair color, which makes for a pretty baseless assumption in terms of race.

I've never known anyone in RL who actually had that surname, but I know it was never really specified in the series itself. The closest thing was when someone asked if it was Polish, I think?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-28 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
He is? He always looked darker to me. Not exactly less white racially, but definitely less pale. And curly dark hair tends to cause people to parse certain nationalities or ethnicities too.

I know it's "technically" a baseless assumption -- but c'mon. This is American TV producers making things for American TV audiences we're talking about here. Just a couple days ago there was a secret whining about how the OP wished a villain in GoT had an uglier actor so s/he could hate him more.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-28 01:40 am (UTC)(link)
The actor is Jewish, although it's never specifically said on the show the character Starsky is. (Paul Glaser was in Fiddler on the Roof, by the way!)

FYI, David Soul actually wanted to play the Starsky character, because he was upbeat and fun, but the producers said, "No, you're playing Hutch." He was cast first, after the producers saw him in Magnum Force with Clint Eastwood. PMG was cast second, after the producers saw the great chemistry the two guys had. :-)

(Anonymous) 2014-02-28 02:16 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, I can't even imagine that!

TBH, it seems to me that Hutch would be the kind of character actors would be more excited to play -- he's very messed-up and complicated in a lot of ways, whereas Starsky is a very straightforward and well-adjusted guy. (Well, he was, at least. Before all the murdered girlfriends and murdered friends and obsessive arch-enemies.)

(Anonymous) 2014-02-28 02:39 am (UTC)(link)
Well, IMO David Soul had enough things messed up in his real life. I think he just wanted to play an enjoyable role. I don't think he was a big "actor's actor." Not that he didn't care about his craft, just that he liked working, and he liked having roles that he could enjoy playing, when it was possible.

The show took a toll on both men, but they became best friends and helped each other through some tough times. I don't think David would have made it without Paul believing in him & accepting him unconditionally, to be honest.

In one of the magazine articles of the time, they are described as literally hugging each other for long minutes when they first met on set for filming. You know, full-bodied, I-need-this-moment-to-survive hugging. They really cared/care about each other.

Anyway I'm glad we got a glimpse of that friendship on screen. I think a lot of it was honest feelings coming through (not to say they aren't skilled, careful actors, but just that they put real feelings into their roles, too).

No disrespect meant to them of course, and I could be wrong bout some things. :)

(Anonymous) 2014-02-28 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Huh, I didn't know about any of this. Pretty much the only thing I know about the actors was that they were friends IRL and Glaser allegedly liked to dent up the Torino on purpose.

I don't want to sound like a dick and ask what kind of messed up things, but...now I'm curious?

(Anonymous) 2014-02-28 04:15 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, I find myself strangely reluctant to get into it. :( I don't want to spread any more gossip or drag his personal problems into it. Life just relly hadn't been easy for either of them.

On the bright side, I've heard they're both doing pretty well lately.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-28 08:56 pm (UTC)(link)
DA Well I don't know whether this qualifies as messed up, but Paul Michael Glaser's wife Elizabeth died of AIDS, so he had that to contend with, clearly quite a while after the series ended.

David Soul struggled a lot with alcohol. He moved to London a long time ago and has been living in North London for many years, in a pretty small flat, he does work in theatre and film in Britain sometimes.

(Anonymous) 2014-02-28 08:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sure I remember references to Starsky being Jewish, but gotta admit it's years since I've seen an ep. I saw most of them more than once though. I don't think it was ever explicit though.