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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-01 03:46 pm

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Admittedly, the only Shakespeare I've seen him in was Henry V, but it didn't make me want to see any more. There's a lot of different ways to play that part well, but he didn't seem to pick any of them.

I have never, in my life, seen a worse St. Crispin's Day speech. It was actively embarrassing to watch. Some of that was the director apparently not understanding how that scene actually works, but Hiddles did not exactly save it. Or visibly try to.

I'm not trying to troll or stir up shit here; I know that the Hollow Cheekbones production got a lot of fangirls excited, and parts of it were lovely. But that Henry V was squirming-in-my-seat awkward to watch, it was so bonelessly bad.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2014-03-01 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I always feel bad for saying this (as a Hiddleston fan) but the best thing about The Hollow Crown series was Ben Whishaw followed by Jeremy Irons. I just found Hiddleston anywhere between "alright" and "quite good" depending on the scene and I definitely preferred Prince Hal to Henry V.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I couldn't be less of a Hiddleston fan, but I do think his lacklustre Henry V was very much his director's fault. It was the first of the plays that was filmed - and his first speech was 'Once more unto the breach' which is pretty much the deepest of deep ends. Moreover she continued to make odd choices throughout the play. I actually felt sorry for the guy and felt he had a much better chance as Hal.

Jeremy Irons was brilliant - again, the director made an odd decision or two - and the scenery was good; and so was Ben Wishaw. But 'Hollow Crown' is a variety of parsnip (gardening anon) and I think this sums the whole production up very well.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2014-03-02 12:26 am (UTC)(link)
I find filmed for TV plays strange at the best of times and IMO that production did seem to suffer a little from being caught between the two. I don't mind it but I agree with you there's a few issues.

I also believe Hiddleston was hampered by some of the decisions made by the director but as someone who does identify as a fan I'm wary of saying that in case people think I'm just defending one of my faves. So it's actually quite nice to see someone who isn't a fan say that. That's not to say there aren't issues with his interpretation but it can't help if you're given something to work with that doesn't work.

And it's funny you mention Henry V being the first filmed because even before I knew that, I got that impression. The Hollow Crown is so weird for me in that it seems to get progressively worse in terms of overall quality. And that's not me saying the later parts are terrible, it's just I didn't feel Henry IV Part II and Henry V as much as the other two plays.
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[personal profile] newredshoes 2014-03-01 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
No, that Henry V was ghastly. I found the Henry IVs really engaging and great, though. I'll agree, Jeremy Irons was outstanding, I liked SRB's Falstaff (inasmuch as you can like Falstaff) and I got super into Joe Armstrong's Hotspur, so it's not a wasted effort.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-01 11:41 pm (UTC)(link)
It wasn't just him in Henry V, though - everyone seemed horribly awkward and off their game. I have no idea how that one went so wrong when the rest of the series was good.