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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-02 03:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2616 ]


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yield: (Default)

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

[personal profile] yield 2014-03-02 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
who cares if someone one the internet "shames" your kink tho. like....kink shaming/ship shaming is such a stupid thing to get mad about. if you are into rape, underage, etc stuff like that you should expect there is going to be people who are Not Okay with it at all.

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Especially if they're newer to that side of fandom. I was - where I'd posted before, the only people who posted underage/rape stuff were obvious trolls, so yeah, I was disturbed, and people really overreacted on me. I know better now, but it kind of sucked at the time.
ill_omened: (Default)

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-03-02 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I would imagine they care because it means all sorts of regressive laws get passed, and it represents and enviroment where someone is being attacked for something they don't think is wrong.
yield: (Default)

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

[personal profile] yield 2014-03-02 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
ok, but i am speaking in a purely fandom/online context. how things carry over into the real world is a totally different can of worms...and one i don't have the energy to open. partly because i don't want to imagine what you would consider "regressive laws" when it comes to certain kinks.
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Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

[personal profile] ill_omened 2014-03-02 09:29 pm (UTC)(link)
But there isn't a clear dilleniation between the beliefs one professes online, and that they hold in real life.

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
This! The kids who post that kind of garbage in the first place just seem to have this freaky disconnect that stuff they post on the Internet is somehow not coming from their heads, when it actually is, and if/when they hit actual adulthood, it's going to really mess them up.

Adults writing porn fanfic is a whole other topic but IMO the worst of it is posted by underage kids who have no idea what they're writing in the first place, and they're using all kinds of social justice arguments to make it okay.

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 09:30 pm (UTC)(link)
partly because i don't want to imagine what you would consider "regressive laws" when it comes to certain kinks.

There are some US states where it's illegal to sell dildos. Just for instance.
yield: (Default)

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

[personal profile] yield 2014-03-02 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
is that an actual law that is enforced? god bless online shopping then :s

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dildos_in_Alabama_law

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-03 04:49 am (UTC)(link)
Well I always knew that state was ass backwards. This just proves it.

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 09:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I'd ask you, who cares, or rather why should you care, if someone is into noncon? if it's a harmless fictional kink, why are people shaming at all.
yield: (Default)

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

[personal profile] yield 2014-03-02 09:34 pm (UTC)(link)
yes, why would someone care about people writing rape for fun/getting off on it. who could imagine what deeply personal reasons they could have for that.

i often read non and dubcon, and if someone wants to take issue with that i don't care. and i get it. and i move on. it's not hard and i don't see a reason to ~fight for my right to kink.

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 09:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not talking about people who hate rapefic. I'm talking about people who go out of their way to shame people who like it. No matter their reasons, they are the ones being dicks.
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Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

[personal profile] fleshisyummy 2014-03-02 10:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I think that's yield's whole point. Who cares if they shame you? Some people are going to think your kinks are sick, and you have to kind of get over it. I like guro, and there are people who think I'm gross for liking guro. As long as they aren't getting in my face about it, I don't care. They can talk about how gross people who like guro are all they want on their blogs or whatever.

Re: When did kink-shaming come back into vogue

(Anonymous) 2014-03-02 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think shaming or mocking someone in general is a normal thing to be upset about. It's a little weird to be all "Why do you care if people mock and insult you? That is so stupid stop being upset at people calling you stupid!"

Also there is a difference between being Not Okay with a kink and actively shaming people about it.