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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-03 07:07 pm

[ SECRET POST #2617 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2617 ⌋

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As a note, social justice is not a fandom. Tumblr itself is not a fandom.

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Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
I usually post under my name but am going anon here to make a point.

I think "keeping track of the anons" on a permanent basis would cripple the comm - this is fandomsecrets, not fandom-tell-everyone-what-you-think-under-your-real-name. We need a level of anonymity available for people to really engage with each other. I'm not brave enough to talk about certain kinks or whatever un-anon, and I have no idea what other people here are comfortable with talking about with a name (or even pseudonym) attached.

Case does a great job of modding the place (case in point - the quick removal of the personal attack). I think if the troll situation really is that out-of-hand, which honestly I don't think it is, maybe Case could appoint some regulars to be co-mods? That's his decision though, and not mine.

For every troll post, there's at least 3 or 4 honest anon posts. And frankly, some of the more obnoxious commentary IMO has been coming from named users (and no I'm not talking about Noodles or Chard). If Case wants to put on IP logging for a day or two, that's his decision but I do think permanently tracking anons will badly stifle the comm.

FYI, the personal attack was ableist bullshit spilled over from the other day.
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Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-03-04 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
What's funny is I'm not even upset about it. It's so obviously try-hard and probably the SJW from the other day being buttmad at me.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
I concur, this was my first thought as well, that it was the same anon.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
I 100% agree. For one thing, the anonymity protects us from internal bullying.

Hypothetically, let's say that someone doesn't like something I've got to say here. Then they obsessively sort through comments, picking out every one I've made, comparing them, picking and choosing for bits that fit the pattern they want to see.

Maybe they think I'm a liar so they point out that I said I liked X over here, and said I wasn't that impressed by it over here. Maybe they think I'm an evil oppressor, so they pick out everything I've ever said that can be read as against SJW orthodoxy, or every thread where I imply that I might have one privilege or another.

Now they've got this picture in their head, they can do two things. One, obviously, is to harass me in this community, waving their "proof" of how evil I am every time they think a comment is me.

The second is to stalk me OUTSIDE this community. I mentioned I've written in X fandom? I mentioned that I live in Y town? I made a reference to my age? I posted in the height and weight thread, or a personal grooming thread, or anything else that gives them a rough physical description of me? Well no prob, just scour through X fandom communities looking for someone who fits those descriptors. Maybe they wind up posting their crazy "expose" shit about me, maybe they wind up posting it about someone else because they're not very good at Internet Detective.

If you think this is an unrealistic scenario, I respect your opinion, but I've seen it play out in a couple of similar patterns, and I've seen it too many times.
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Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-03-04 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Something like that happened to a friend of mine who used to post on here. Why do you think she doesn't post on here anymore?

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 02:03 am (UTC)(link)
What, this happened when she posted anon with IP logging turned on?!?!?!? Noooooooo......

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
I'm pretty sure he's talking about a user account.

(As far as I know, only case can see IP addresses. You should be fine anon as long as you don't connect yourself to actual accounts.)

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
That would be if you're a member. But logging the IP Addresses would not prevent you from being anonymous. It just means that Case, our moderator, knows which anon you are and if you're involved in harassment. Case would also be the only one that would know, and he's never abused his power, so he'd take handling this information very seriously.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
You can't just punish everyone. It's not fair.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
You'd only be "punished" if you were actually doing something shitty. Case only whips out banning people or informing the community that a troll anon is the same anon from another thread if they themselves abuse their privileges as an anon.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 01:38 pm (UTC)(link)
Privacy is a serious matter for some of us, you know. I don't want case to have my IP.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 02:17 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not like you can use a proxy or anything if privacy's a huge concern.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't he publicly call fleshlight out? I'm not saying he was wrong just that... I'd be worried about it.
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Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-03-04 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
He's also called out anons who deliberately argued against themselves.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 01:39 am (UTC)(link)
So now anons with dissociative identity disorder should not post here? Nice ableism there case.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 02:11 am (UTC)(link)
Can't you save the straw warrioring for threads that aren't trying to have a serious discussion, failtroll?

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 01:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Kill yourself fag.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 02:34 am (UTC)(link)
Was wondering when the SJW idiots would show up.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 03:16 am (UTC)(link)
...Are we really this unable to detect parody here? So much secondhand embarrassment.
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Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-03-04 03:28 am (UTC)(link)
To be fair, it's gotten really hard to around here.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 01:34 pm (UTC)(link)
People here aren't that bright to be honest. Anon should have added a big PARODY WARNING.

AYRT

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 02:43 am (UTC)(link)
In principle I know and respect that. I hope I don't come off as thinking less of case, who is cooler than a liquid nitrogen slurpee. My fear of getting doxxed, in any form, makes me jumpy enough that I cannot react well to any reduction in anonymity, even one that in principle ought to be just fine. I hope that clarifies where I'm coming from?

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
Only case as long as his account doesn't get hacked.

Re: Can we start logging IP Adresses of Anons?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-04 02:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with everything, especially that a lot of the obnoxious stuff has been coming from named users. It's getting old.