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[My Mad Fat Diary]

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[Stargate Atlantis]

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[Andromeda]

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[True Detective]

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[Samurai Flamenco]

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[Supernatural]

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[Wild Adapter]

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[The Bletchley Circle]

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[Junior Prom - Prelinger Archives Video]

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:D Troll romance!

♥: matespritship, known as "flushed"
♦: moirallegiance, known as "pale"
♣: auspisticism, known as "ashen"
♠: kismesissitude, known as "caliginous"

Collectively, the first two are known as "red romance", or "redrom", and focus on positive emotions. For trolls, the most positive emotion is pity. (slight spoiler: this isn't really true; some trolls are capable of love. probably all of them. it's really more of a weird cultural thing? long story.)
Collectively, the last two are known as "black romance", or "blackrom", and focus on negative emotions. For trolls, the most negative emotion is hate.

Matespritship and kismesissitude are collectively known as concupiscent relationships and are involved in troll reproduction. They are both romantic and sexual relationships, just based on different extreme emotions. (So, yes, hate!sex is canon in Homestuck.) The other two are known as conciliatory relationships and are romantic but not sexual in nature (though there can be physical aspects such as cuddling).

All of these relationships are traditionally monogamous, like human relationships, and it's possible to be in more than one kind of relationship at once - in fact, a troll with a maximally robust love life has all four quadrants filled. ♥ and ♠ are pretty easy to understand - they sort of mirror human romance, except with pity (or maybe love) for flushed, and hate for caliginous relationships (this can mean that makeout sessions/sex is violent and bloody, something which trolls have a high tolerance for). The other two are not quite as simple. Moirallegiance involves a relationship where one troll helps keep the other "in line" and curbs their more violent/unpredictable tendencies. (This can be reciprocal, I think, though it's often presented as being more one-sided.) Asupisticism is the weirdest - two trolls with ashen feelings for each other (sort of a mild hate?) enlist a third person to be their "mediator"; that person keeps them from degenerating into full-on kismesissitude, because that could cause them to be unfaithful to their other quadrants (apparently hate comes quite easily to trolls). Thus, ashen romance is always a relationship among three people, though there are different roles.

Here's a helpful diagram:

I imagine that by the time I'm done writing this someone else will already have responded...I hope if that's so this is still helpful to you in some way, anon.

ETA: cool! I was actually the first person to answer. :3

Edited 2014-03-07 00:57 (UTC)

I'm always just lazy and summarize it as:

♥: traditional romance
♦: monogamous BFFs
♣: one person keeping two other people from killing each other - and by extension, all three as friends - by acting as a weird intermediary
♠: hatesex

auspisticism is the hardest one to sum up

Ugh, I decided once that I was never going to get into Homestuck and, reading these comments, I can't remember why.

And they haven't even told you about the leprechaun romance. Hoo, boy.

Edited 2014-03-07 02:41 (UTC)

I'm most weirded out by the 8s.

That's because she a pir8.

Short explanation: All trolls have a typing quirk (one fanon theory is that basically troll brains tend naturally towards a memetic form of OCD) that also, somehow, can be heard in their actual speech as well, even when it'd make no sense whatsoever (All caps is one thing, but how could you actually hear leetspeak? Trolls and anybody else who hears then can make it out though)

I totally "hear" the leetspeak in my head when I read, but I can't pronounce it outloud. It's not like "T3R3Z1" is Tuh-three-re-three-zee-one, it's just...subtly different than "Terezi". Shorter vowel sounds, I think. I am not an expert on sounds.

I kinda feel you. It reads like a word with a different accent, but it's really impossibly to actually say it differently.

Yes! (Aw man I've always loved that icon of yours.) That's why I thought it was hilarious in Namco High when she said "1S TH4T R34LLY WH4T YOU TH1NK 1 SOUND L1K3?" It's also why for a long time I hated all the voice acting for her, because nobody could do it right. I got used to it though.

H33 H33, TH4NKS >:]

...I never actually tried to read under the staticky text before but

Yes, you heard me right. That means the Felt are all super gay.

:|

Hussie knew somebody was gonna keep going. All hail the huss.

I call it a codependent threesome.

I don't like that though, because it is actually healthy and desirable for trolls to have this.

It's a good way of translating it for the uninitiated, though.

Sort of. Being conciliatory there isn't any sex. But all three people are vital to the relationship. You can't have an auspistice with just two.

...actually, yes, you can. It's Homestuck. You can do anything. I ship JadeKat in all quadrants including Jade functioning as mediator to past-and-future Karkat. But that is still two separate manifestations of Karkat interacting with each other.

Gog, Homestuck is weird. (I love it.) :B

That works. But I like to ramble and analyze and summarize and all that shit haha

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