[ SECRET POST #2623 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2623 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 064 secrets from Secret Submission Post #375.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[ibbity]

Dude, while you have a point about the whole "kids/teenagers need better sexual education than they generally get," I am pretty certain that incredibly twisted and kinked-up shit like you find in a LOT of porn games and fan-made stuff is not even remotely gonna do that for them. 12 year olds do not need to learn about sex from some Harry Potter fan's incestuous skull-fucking fic and they don't need to be learning about genital torture or 24 hour Master/slave relationships or bestiality rape fantasies before they're even quite sure where the clitoris is yet. Also, lol "adultism." You are aware that age laws exist for a reason, right?

[(Anonymous)]

Excellent reply.

[feotakahari]

I've only really been in one fandom, but my experience of fan-made porn hasn't been a lot of bestiality rape fantasies. In fact, a lot of it's been really vanilla--and more to the point, even the queer romances have been treated as normal and natural.

[(Anonymous)]

Do you personally stay away from the porny fic/art? Because I can't imagine being in fandom for awhile and not running into all of the crazy kinky shit that's out there.

[feotakahari]

It exists, and I see it get featured sometimes, but it doesn't get featured nearly as often as the vanilla stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

You don't have to tell me if you don't want (obviously) but I'm curious what fandom you're in?

[feotakahari]

MLP. It's probably more lovey-dovey than most fandoms. (Though it does have some horribly sexist het shippers . . .)

[(Anonymous)]

are you shitting me

the fandom that is most notoriously known for their sick fucking torture/rape/scat/what-have-you fics and art

it is literally known for these things, i'm not even in it and i know all about cupcakes and scootaloo's love for pain and all that shit, it is literally that prevalent a presence on the internet, and kids really really really don't need to be exposed to it

[(Anonymous)]

Well, I've actually been in a few small fandoms myself where there wasn't anything kinky written/the kinkiest stuff was either basic bdsm (think handcuffs and cock rings) or just an overly described sex scene(s). It really depends on who's willing to write what and oddly, it seems no one really wants the label of 'the pervy one'/'the pervert' in the smaller fandoms even in situations where they'd be completely anonymous.

[ketita]

Wow, I see so much kink and BDSM without hardly looking for it that it's scary. I have no problem with kink or BDSM between consenting adults, but I think that kids shouldn't have it as their first exposures to sexuality. Bestiality not so much in my fandoms, but I've seen... a lot of creepy stuff, and I don't even read much porn.
I will respectfully say that I think your fandom experience is relatively unique.

[weaselbee]

I remember my first introduction to fandom smut was some pretty creepy/kinky stuff. I wasn't even looking for it, I just wanted some pictures of my pairing together so I innocently clicked on it. So yeah, I'm a little leery of younger people seeing that and having that being their introduction to sexuality.

[feotakahari]

What fandom are you in? I stumbled across a MASSIVE amount of hardcore BDSM when I briefly looked at the Harry Potter fandom. (I'm not really sure what the factors are that determine how kinky each fandom gets.)

[ketita]

I'm in SNK right now and it's harder to find vanilla for the big ships than kink. FMA was less drastic but I still remember a lot of kink and slavefic and this weird semi-bestiality 'verse that all the bnfs were into.
Ans I can tell you for sure that there are a lot of younger teens in the SNK fandom... I just don't think fandom is the best type of sexuality for kids to be exposed to at a young age.

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AYRT

The sheer variety and range definitely made me feel less weird. And that stuff is ... I'm not sure how to put it, but you get into the stuff that has something to offer you. I knew skullfucking fics existed, but that's not where I hung out because it didn't interest me. The people I know who do like some of that stuff liked it long before the internet. So the idea that kids will get into all sorts of crazy deviance that would never have crossed their mind without this big, bad place doesn't seem credible to me. Scary, but unfounded.

I'm not seeing what the validity of age laws has to do with the OP being disgusted that kids like sex games.

[(Anonymous)]

I think there's an important difference between what OP said and what you interpreted. I don't think people are "disgusted that kids like sex games" - they are disturbed to find out that they are playing sex games with kids. HUGE difference there. And if you honestly can't see why an adult would be unsettled to find out they had been playing a sex game with a child, then I have no idea where to even start.

[(Anonymous)]

This, exactly.

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[(Anonymous)]

Yes.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I thought I read the original secret carefully. It sounded to me like the OP didn't like having kids in fandoms based on explicit video games. Not that they didn't like playing sex games with kids. Is the game in the secret an MMO, or similar? Because I was assuming the game was like a visual novel and the fandom was where people went to bond over their common interest.

[(Anonymous)]

It is a visual novel.

[(Anonymous)]

+2. If anything you should be more worried about the adults who don't get unsettled by that.

Also if you're stupid enough to openly state that you're a minor in an R18 fandom then you completely deserve the inevitable "oh god get away" reactions you're going to get from the adults in the vicinity, sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

Hello.

[misty_anon]

I agree with this so, so much. Geeze, there's a ton of stuff out there I'm leery of and I'm waaaay beyond my teen years. Even reading the tags on AO3 can lead to a whole load of do-not-want.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt and ot but the idea of a captcha for a porn site that requires you to locate the clitoris on a diagram or similar ("In a real-life situation, how many adults need to give consent in a threeway?") makes me giggly, but also kind of wondering if that might actually work...

[(Anonymous)]

Exactly this.

[(Anonymous)]

12 year olds do not need to learn about sex from some Harry Potter fan's incestuous skull-fucking fic and they don't need to be learning about genital torture or 24 hour Master/slave relationships or bestiality rape fantasies before they're even quite sure where the clitoris is yet.

AHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAAAA oh God. Seriously? When I was 12 my fantasies and my fic were WAY creepier and darker and more fucked up than they are now. When I actually started having sex the skeevishness of my porn consumption and creation went down dramatically. Twelve year olds are weird and horny! It's fine!

It's not fine for them to actually tell you that they're twelve, of course, but more power to the horny little bastards.

(Also, if folks care about sex ed for teens, Scarleteen is holding a fundraiser due to a massive funding shortfall: http://www.scarleteen.com/blog/heather_corinna/2014/03/03/may_day_2014_scarleteen_strikes_or_with_your_help_we_dont )