[ SECRET POST #2623 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2623 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

But that's still putting adults and kids in a situation where they can get in trouble.

I agree that maybe we need to re-examine how we do things, especially for those unfortunate kids who only do get preached at and never get any real sex education... but it's a touchy subject and in the mean time, you can't really expect adults to be completely okay having teenagers around their porn spaces.

Even if the rules change I still would prefer to have adult only spaces when it comes to porn, even if not ALL the spaces are adult only, but that's just my feeling.

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AYRT

I'm not sure why it's unreasonable to hope that more of the people who grew up slipping under age restrictions would speak out against their existence. Kids aren't in a good position to fix this. Adults might be. Even if we can't get the laws changed in the short term, fandom would be a different place if everyone had more of an attitude of "yeah, those laws are dumb, feel free to ignore them." And less people throwing up because they read a fourteen year old's explicit fic and liked it.

I'm not trying to shame the anon who shared that story at all, I'm sorry they had that experience. But ... I hate to think how the fic writer would feel, if they knew someone loved their story but was violently revolted by them.

[(Anonymous)]

See, I think the problem with saying "Those laws are dumb, ignore them" is that the adults in fandom can't ignore them. Fandom is not going to be able to get these laws changed, not anytime soon (seriously, good luck finding any lawmaker who would be willing to be the one to put forward a "let minors look at porn" law. It's not going to happen, not without a giant shift in the way people think about sexuality). Yes, it sucks that kids who want to know these things are told "Fine, but lie about your age" and can't have frank discussion, but it would suck more for adults who have to worry about being prosecuted for it. Sure, that hasn't happened in a big way yet but that doesn't mean it never can. It only takes one irate parent with wads of cash and then those "stupid" laws suddenly show that no, they can't just be ignored. It may not be fair for kids that this is the case, but it's also not fair to adults who are trying to interact in spaces intended for adults to suddenly have the worry of "Oh crap there's a kid here and I could be in legal shit now."

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AYRT

The thing is, it wouldn't have to be a "let minors look at porn" law. People manage to publish erotica without being sued on the off chance that their work will be read by a minor. BDSM communities and blogs manage to have frank, explicit conversations about human sexuality without being closed by irate parents. I'm just saying, a "you are not responsible for other people reading your work on the open internet" law would do, and it could be something that bloggers and the ACLU would want also.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not sure we are reading anon's reaction the same: to me they didn't say they are revolted by them (the underage writer) but by themselves (the adult reader).

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AYRT

A fourteen year old suceeded in writing effective erotica. And ... anon's reaction was being disgusted with themselves for finding it hot? I don't see how that makes sense. I mean, they were turned on by the story. Not the fourteen year old.

But yeah, we were reading that differently.