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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-11 06:26 pm

[ SECRET POST #2625 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 10:58 pm (UTC)(link)
He's gay so I really doubt he's homophobic. You sound incredibly angry about this. Why?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Because of the things he's done out of self-loathing. He's done more hurtful things to the LGBT community than many straight homophobes.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:04 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Like what?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Another DA

Yes, what? I Googled this and all I can find are some really vague references to his OMG!HISTORY OF HOMOPHOBIC COMMENTS.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-12 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Sheesh. Hyperbole much?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
He sued to have all traces of his modeling shoot for XY erased from the internet because the images of men kissing each other are "pornographic" and he's sorry he agreed to that shoot and hopes it won't hurt his career that he modeled for, in his own words, "lewd photos." How is that NOT homophobic?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Well, were they pornographic or just kissy-kissy? Details plz.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Nevermind, found the pics. Muy caliente.

Anyway, he didn't sue anyone - his reps evidently scoured the 'net and sent out a bunch of cease-and-desists.

Was that right? Probably not. It wasn't illegal for anyone to post the pics; they're public material.

Did it help his career? Maybe. His reps may have had experience with young unknowns in similar situations that had trouble making it in mainstream media.

Does it reflect his personal views? I don't know, and neither do you.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
Great, now google the lawsuit instead of just the pictures. When you read it, you'll see he hired a rep to hire an attorney to sue to have the images removed and his reasons for doing (it's pornography when two men kiss, etc) are clearly stated and his signature accompanies the documents.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

It would be easier if you just gave me the source. My googling has only turned up threats to sue, no actual lawsuit.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
SA

Nevermind, it's been removed from all search engine results as part of the settlement. Their is a notice about it on the results pages.

https://www.google.com/#q=colton+haynes+xy+lawsuit
Same thing all search engines.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
SA again.

Ooh, just found out he was also underage when the pics were taken. Umm. Yeah, kind of on Colton Hayes' side here.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Wait, were they porno or was it a model shoot with kissing? Underage porno = bad, underage models kissing = legal.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Depends. Are there shoots of him making out with women that he's fine having available to the public? Because that's the only way being against those photos necessarily screams homophobia.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes, he's been photographed kissing women and didn't sue to have the images erased. He's also been filmed kissing women and has not sued to have the studios destroy the footage.

Even if that weren't the case, his homophobic comments about being photographed kissing another man are enough to demonstrate that he is homophobic.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
his homophobic comments about being photographed kissing another man

Source?

[personal profile] glo_unit 2014-03-11 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Man, I had almost forgotten what a crazy mess that situation was, and still wish I knew what the hell went on.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
What went on? The usual closet case antics.

[personal profile] glo_unit 2014-03-12 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
Actually no, it was odder than that. NOTE: most of this is my third person observations and memories from events a few years ago, and while I have a very good memory, I'm not going to pretend I will have things right.

One blogger posted the full cease-and-desist letter, and in addition with the part posted earlier was a section proclaiming that the pictures where meant to be private. However on a blog(possible the same blog), mentioned corresponding with either the former magazine editor or the photographer, and getting that shoot was completely legal and even Colton's mother signed a release for him to be able to do the shoot.

So while it did call the photos lewd and other names, it was oddly the closest thing to outing Colton that I know of. Muddying the waters somewhat is that while it was a shoot for the magazine XY I believe the magazine itself presented that pics and two cute models who happen to be dating sending it personal pics of themselves.

It reminds me of Luke Evans, both situations are complicated and odd, and no one knows much big if any part the actor played in their respective situations.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-12 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
Anon who's been all over this thread (but there is more than one of us)

Muddying the waters somewhat is that while it was a shoot for the magazine XY I believe the magazine itself presented that pics and two cute models who happen to be dating sending it personal pics of themselves.

Thanks for that. It at least provides some color as to why the lawyer was saying the pictures were private. Not saying they were, just saying it's interesting that's how they were presented in the magazine.

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wait

(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought it was just speculated that he's gay and he hasn't actually come out or anything, just blind items and rumors. Is he actually out now?

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:38 pm (UTC)(link)
speculation only

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-11 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
So other anons argument is that he's maybe gay so he can't possibly be homophobic. Really.

Re: wait

(Anonymous) 2014-03-12 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
No, anon's (my) argument was not that he's "maybe gay so he can't possibly be homophobic" - I'd thought he was gay but I was wrong. Whatever. I don't care much either way since I'm not a fan. I still think it's stupid when some random ass anon blows in, crying "Prejudice!" without giving context to their claims.

Re: wait

(Anonymous) 2014-03-12 06:27 am (UTC)(link)
Wasn't it revealed that he dated Zachary Quinto at some point?