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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-22 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2636 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2636 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-03-22 08:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I've never actually heard someone say why Saga is good. They just say that it's good, and then they say it has a lot of nudity.

That said, "indie comics" isn't so much a category as the lack of a category. It covers enough different genres that it seems kind of odd to say you don't like them.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah. There are such things as indie superhero comics and a whole wide variety of other things. And I could see someone making the case that OP is using the term to describe a specific subgenre in the same way indie music has almost nothing to do with who owns a record label - except that Saga doesn't fit into any of those categories as far as I can figure.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2014-03-22 08:47 pm (UTC)(link)
Saga is written like the title suggests. It's a story narrated by the interspecies child of two races locked in a bitter, eternal war about hate and love and killing and fucking.

It doesn't really have much in the way of good "this page encapsulates the series" moments because it's very much a "you need to read this from page 1 of comic one to the end" series. It possibly should have been a novel. But it's engaging. It succeeds in making you care about a large diverse cast of characters even as some try to hurt and kill the others.



Expect constant mood whiplash. Surprisingly, be okay with the mood whiplash. This is a series that makes you say "FUCK THERE'S HOW MUCH TIME TILL THE NEXT ISSUE!?"

Also some fanservice! (Note, the page makes total sense in context as well)

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-03-22 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
I have to say, while most man!fanservice doesn't appeal to me at all, I've seen worse than that guy.

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[personal profile] elaminator 2014-03-22 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
I really like the story, characters, art, and writing. And the world it's set in is engaging and weird; that appeals to me.
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[personal profile] lunabee34 2014-03-23 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I really like Saga.

I don't read comics or graphic novels. I have a huge disconnect when it comes to them for some reason, and I have trouble integrating the visual part and the textual part. It's not a genre that appeals to me very much. My husband convinced me to start reading Saga and I love it. The dialogue is glorious, I really like the artwork, and the storyline is very compellling.

Because I'm not into the genre, I don't know anything about the categories of comics or whatever. I just know I like this one. :)

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 08:14 pm (UTC)(link)
fwiw, I only read Saga because I'm such a long time BKV fan, and I honestly can't get all the hype about it. It's entertaining enough to buy, but I fail to see the genius.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
They really lucked out with that whole gay sex censorship controversy.
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[personal profile] rubbertea 2014-03-22 08:26 pm (UTC)(link)
comics snobs, like all kinds of snobs, are fucking annoying

who cares if you like more mainstream comics, it doesn't say anything about the quality of it. a large percentage of indie comics are fucking terrible.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-03-22 08:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand this secret. There's plenty of superhero indie comics -- Invincible (by Robert Kirkman of Walking Dead fame!), Irredeemable, Black Summer (though that was a mini) and so on. Not to mention lots of writers like Warren Ellis do indie work outside of the Big Two.

I think you're dismissing indie comics out of hand.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-03-22 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Agreed. There's also The Tick, Superhero Girl, Too Much Coffee Man and Powers.

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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2014-03-22 08:38 pm (UTC)(link)
XXXHolic isn't a superhero manga... does that mean it's one of the exceptions?

[personal profile] ex_mek82 2014-03-22 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I.... am going to agree with this. I find it difficult to get into the majority of indie comics, because like superhero comics (and webcomics, for that matter), there's always going to be Sturgeon's Law in effect. For every 'Love and Rockets' and 'Hellboy', there's always going to be a 'Tarot: Witch of the Black Rose' and 'Bomb Queen'. Indie comics in general are just something that you have to seek out recs for based on what you like, I've found.

But hey, your tastes are your own. And that's perfectly okay! That's the reason why there's so many varieties of genres in the comic book world, after all.

On a semi-related side note, I also tried reading Saga, and while it was a decent read, I think it's better to read in the collected trade format. That said, BKV's style isn't to everyone's taste, so that could be part of it for you, maybe?
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Off-topic: Everything I know about the Tarot comics

[personal profile] feotakahari 2014-03-22 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Samantha Brown! You have to get out of here! Your vagina is haunted!

(Apparently, it actually gets WORSE from there.)

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[personal profile] elaminator 2014-03-22 10:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't see anything wrong with reading mainstream comics and anyone who gives you a hard time about it is a dick. That said, I'm not even sure what comics are considered indie so... I don't know how to comment on that, lol. I do like Saga, but if you aren't interested you aren't interested. *shrugs*

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 10:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I couldn't get into Saga at all. I read a couple of the first issues, but it was such a slog I gave up. I guess I'm just uncultured.
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[personal profile] likeadeuce 2014-03-22 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
It's THE WORST when people talk about things they like and encourage other people to try them! What makes them think that's what FANDOM is for???

(Anonymous) 2014-03-23 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
There is a BIG difference between.

"Hey! I found this awesome new thing you should totally try it!"

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"Hey! I found this awesome new thing you should totally try it! Did you try it yet? Did you? DID YOU?? You loved it, right? You didn't? WHY NOT? OMG, HOW COULD YOU NOT LIKE IT?? You just didn't get it, do you?"

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[personal profile] inevitableentresol 2014-03-23 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
Just came here to say I also have a massive love for Asterix.

It's not overexaggeration to say he inspired both my love for ancient history and bad, bad jokes.

+1 for Asterix

(Anonymous) 2014-03-23 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
Sometimes I think about the yelling battle over selling boars and I laugh alone...

(Anonymous) 2014-03-23 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
NGL, I'm the exact snob you and a bunch of folks are railing against. I absolutely respect that there's a lot of ways to be a comics fan, a lot of different wonderful things to love about comics, many different kinds of comics.

But if you haven't read, or don't deeply admire, the work of Los Bros Hernandez, I don't consider you serious about the artform. Not saying you're not a "real" or a "true" fan or whatever... just not serious about the artform.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-23 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
...I appreciate Love and Rockets and the skill of the Hernandez brothers (or do you have to call them "Los Bros Hernandez?" College was a long time ago), but I've just never had the yen to get my hands on a copy of Love and Rockets.

I think I'm still pretty serious about the artform. I think I went to college and got a degree studying the artform. I think I can discus the concept of "story" and the effectiveness of moving a viewer's eye across the page, and appreciate myriad different approaches to the artform.

But there's a lot of classic work out there.


It's like saying that if you haven't read/don't deeply love *insert ONE book of the classic literary canon* that you're not serious about classic literature. There's...kind of a lot.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-23 08:35 am (UTC)(link)
That's so weird. Most comic book fans I know consider you a noob unless you're read at least some runs of the big superheros and could care less if you've read something like Jimmy Corrigan.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-23 02:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Man yeah I know it's probably just some fans being pricks because it's the internet but I prefer cape comics. I don't know. I think it's a combination of art and subject. I have read other things but I just don't care about the day to day lives of normal people; a lot of books people recommend. Hellboy is the only thing that I've gotten pretty far into but people would kill me if I ever said I didn't much care for Mignola's art.

That being said I don't like Alan Davis either. I guess I'm not a chunky line-lot of black kinda girl.

I like BVK but I can't get into Saga. It's just too much sex and grit for the sake of sex and grit. (I also don't like Game of Thrones for the same reason.)



And there's my life story.