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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-22 03:44 pm

[ SECRET POST #2636 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2636 ⌋

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Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Is it legitimate, though? IIRC ASD has been removed from the DSM V.
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[personal profile] dethtoll 2014-03-22 08:57 pm (UTC)(link)
They didn't, it just got folded into a broader autism spectrum.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah. All I read about it was one mother writing an article (I want to say The Atlantic but I can't be bothered to check RN) about how her child "fell off the spectrum" with the new criteria.

I find it sad that lack of socialization has become so medicalized, that doctors and parents throw all kinds of interventions and pathological responses at it, instead of, oh, say, socializing your child properly to begin with.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
They tightened up the diagnostic criteria on it, amongst other disorders, to reflect the fact it is now better understood and because the previous criteria was so broad that virtually anyone could qualify for it with only slight exaggeration of daily living behaviors. So some people probably did get jettisoned, but that is only because they were false positives under previous diagnostic criteria.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Right, this was my understanding. Though it's a shame so many kids in that generation have been pathologized/medicalized due to it.
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Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-23 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
THIS, so much. Hell, if autism had been a thing back when I was a kid, I'm sure I probably would've been slapped with the label because I was shy and quiet and preferred books to people.

Guess what? I grew out of it. I was just a late bloomer socially; there was nothing wrong with me at all. I know plenty of other people who were the same way, too. Some people just take a while to become comfortable with themselves and that's okay.
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Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-23 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
but people can also be socially awkward and bad at social interactions and grow out of that too, it doesn't necessarily mean they have asperger's.

i guess my skepticism comes from the fact that so many parents these days seem to be in such a rush to diagnose their kid with autism or asperger's if they're even the slightest bit socially awkward - not "perfect," in other words. my mother works in a school and she sees this sort of thing all the time - kid isn't getting straight a's? THEY MUST HAVE A LEARNING DISABILITY, it can't possibly mean that they're just naturally a c student. so then they give the kid a battery of tests and nope, turns out there's nothing wrong with the kid, they're just a c student. it's like the parents can't accept that their child is anything less than 100% perfect and need some sort of medical diagnosis to justify it.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 09:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Yep, just very mild autism. In other words, it is something the person with it can overcome with little effort and doesn't need anyone else to have to make allowances for. That is why a lot of those who invested their online presence in having aspergers are in outrage over, they now have to grow up and not act like brats. It is also why they incidence of people claiming it has plummeted (just like ADHD and bi-polar before it when they fell out of fashion). Some new disorder will be invented soon for the people who want to be assholes without having the good grace to admit they just like being an asshole.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 09:06 pm (UTC)(link)
it is something the person with it can overcome with little effort and doesn't need anyone else to have to make allowances for

In other words, they have nothing wrong with them, they just want a special snowflake label for themselves.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 09:09 pm (UTC)(link)
bullseye

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
No, in other words, it makes life a little more difficult, the same way that various factors can make life a little more difficult. It's not "overcome," it doesn't go away, but it's managed. People adjust and compensate. I don't mention my diagnosis and I don't get special treatment, but I live with it. And I'm posting this anon - I don't want a label, and comments like yours are the reason why.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 10:30 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

You're the opposite of the Tumblr users we are discussing, though. And you don't seem to have the wild sense of entitlement the (self-diagnosed) Tumblrati do...

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Bullshit on little effort.

I was diagnosed at the highest functioning end of the spectrum at a young age and that took years of learning coping mechanisms, group therapy, medication, and active socialization to not stick out like a sore thumb in social situations and I still struggle with long term decisions and dealing with stress.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 09:57 pm (UTC)(link)
Exactly you are putting in a little effort so you can be normal and, this post sadly excepted, not expecting others to be the ones that have to accommodate your weirdness. That is all this redefinition has done. Acknowledged your small effort and that it is no longer appropriate to put up with special snowflake demands. All on you buddy, its all on you.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 10:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Except I don't even mention my diagnosis to people unanon and expect no special snowflake treatment, asshole.

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Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

"Years of therapy and medication" doesn't sound like a "small effort" to me. How about you stop minimizing the real problems faced by the people whose conditions you so blithely dismiss and sneer at? C'mon, acting like a decent human being would only take a little effort to keep the rest of us from putting up with your special snowflake demands to be an asshole.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok if you're serious, you're an incredible asshole.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Funny how you talk about other people being assholes, when you're actually sounding like a massive one yourself.
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-03-22 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
can overcome with little effort and doesn't need anyone else to have to make allowances for

lol nope

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-22 10:17 pm (UTC)(link)
No.
Alsos, fuck you.
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Re: Fandom and Anxiety

[personal profile] cakemage 2014-03-23 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, no.

Re: Fandom and Anxiety

(Anonymous) 2014-03-23 11:35 am (UTC)(link)
My compensatory patterns have given me a depression that has kept coming back time and again ever since I was 12. But I guess that's "little effort".