[ SECRET POST #2636 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2636 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Tropes that irrationally annoy the hell out of you.

[(Anonymous)]

You should read Kingdom Come! It's set in the future of the DCU, where most classic Golden Age superheroes have retired because the world sees them as dated after the Joker blew up the Daily Planet, killing Lois Lane, and Superman didn't kill him--another, new hero did. Everyone thinks this is the right choice, and Superman is disappointed and goes into seclusion.

Eventually, Superman says while he doesn't kill for many reasons, one of the most important is that they are NOT above society's laws. Judges are the ones who decide the sentence and the guilt, not superheroes. It is not their place to act like the gods of life and death.

Basically, if you want them dead so badly, then let it be by civilized laws, in court. This mostly applying to more human-level villains like Lex and the Joker.

Re: Tropes that irrationally annoy the hell out of you.

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That actually annoys me on a separate level - the whole view that superheroes shouldn't be the gods of life and death and "superheroes don't get to decide that" - BUT when it comes to stopping human-level villains like Lex and the Joker by punching through walls and destroying buildings and forcing other people to deal with the collateral damage or accidentally causing gigantic explosions, that's fine. Even if nobody asked them to dive in and start violently heroing.

There's no reason at all to leave it to the cops or the military, because unlike cops and the military, human courts and judges and law systems are... infallible...? For some reason. Why do they respect one institution and not the other? If they respected both and stood down, that'd made sense. If they respected neither, that'd make sense. Respecting one but not the other seems arbitrary and hypocritical. If they're "not above society's laws" why the heck are they diving in to punch bad guys in the face when not officially authorized to do so? That's pretty much going directly above society's laws.

Like there's punching out a guy that's mugging you in self-defense, and then there's patrolling the streets looking for muggers to punch when you're not actually a police officer or anything like that. Not all, but most superheroes are basically vigilantes and vigilantes are kind of the definition of considering themselves above the law. To say they shouldn't be above the law, after doing everything they do, is pretty laughable.

Obviously supernatural SUPERPOWERED threats and all are a different thing, and I mean human-level villains only. But - usually, at least - the only reason a crack team of regular old military/etc can't stop Joker is because he has totally arbitrary Plot Armor that makes it so only Batman can do it. And just because Batman happens to be correct in jumping in when it comes to Joker and his Plot Armor, doesn't mean it's morally right on principle to do so ALL the time.

I get all the arguments for the Plot Armor - it's for the sake of the story et cetera et cetera and I agree with that. Without those tropes, a story of that kind wouldn't be possible. That doesn't mean a different story can't exist in the same genre. These are just things that personally annoy me about the genre as a whole.