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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-27 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2641 ]


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(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Because American SJWs.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
American SJWs who have never heard of the Ottoman Empire too.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Um, or because in the show a white lady saved a bunch of dark skinned slaves and they seemed to have started worshiping her and calling her mother...

Don't use "SJW" as a dismissal for legitimate criticism.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
No because they are all Moroccan, the history of slavery is not the same in our region as it is in the USA. Slave markets in Morocco and Algeria existed to sell northern european, slavic and black people for centuries.

And they were doing the exact same thing in the books with the "Mysa" chant.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-27 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
What the heck does this have to do with Morocco? Or real life history? We're discussing a fantasy series. If you think it's total accident that they were all cast dark-skinned, you are seriously delusional.

I thought it was dumb in the books, too.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:03 am (UTC)(link)
The scene was filmed in Morocco, so most of the people who answered the call for extras were...Moroccan. And whatcha gonna do then, tell them they can't be in the show because of the color of their skin?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
"Morocco? Sounds like some black person place. Racist casting!"

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:33 am (UTC)(link)
Wow, are you ever trying hard to miss the point here.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think they are.

I notice that you chose to ignore the bit about white people being sold into slavery in that region of the world. Perhaps you choose to miss things that don't fit into your perception of history.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I've done extra work for years. If the extras casting people weren't told to hire a specific type, I guarantee you there would be a LOT more paler skinned extras. They would find them.

Pretty sure the casting is intentional.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
That depends on the location that's been chosen for filming. If the location happens to have a lot of dark-skinned people living in it, then the extras are most likely going to be dark-skinned.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:14 am (UTC)(link)
Have you done work as an extra in Morocco?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:47 pm (UTC)(link)
If you were doing location shoot in my country, I doubt you'd be able to drum up a dozen white guys even if you wanted to.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 02:33 am (UTC)(link)
and they just chose to cast it in an area with a lot of dark skinned people for no reason? Why couldn't they have cast it IDK, in Sweden?

The show is made BY Americans and the books written by an American author so I think applying American sociological issues for criticism is fair here.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
Fucking this. Regardless of the filming rationale (and with that budget, seriously), it's a white lady saving a bunch of dark skinned slaves. That's it. The scene is really orientalist and white saviour.

Dismissing people's concerns with "american social justice warriors = irrational and far-fetched and naive and probably white" is just another version of tired old conservative backlash. "I don't see a problem so neither should you."

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Conservative backlash? Not everyone knows about your Republican-Democrats dichotomy politics.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
this

my god does this community have a problem with "you think what I like has problems? SJW!!!!"

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Fucking this. Regardless of the filming rationale (and with that budget, seriously), it's a white lady saving a bunch of dark skinned slaves. That's it. The scene is really orientalist and white saviour.

The more you scream words like white savior and orientalist, the less meaning they have.

So please, keep screeching it from the battlements. Pretty soon you won't have an audience left to 'educate' and maybe then you'll shut up about it.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
da

Believe it or not, those words have meanings. And they can be used when applicable. Like, oh, in this case.

lol is it just me or are Game of Thrones fans more defensive than other fans?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 03:07 am (UTC)(link)
Not...really? They're kind of the same as everyone else.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 09:48 am (UTC)(link)
Not everyone who opposes the sheer obnoxiousness and ignorance of militant SJWs is automatically conservative, anon. Some people are just fed up with SJWs turning every social movement into a mockery with their stupid over sensitive and alarmist ways. They deserve to be taken down a peg or two.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
But if you can't use SJW to dismiss legitimate concerns, what can you use it for? /sarcasm

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Isn't that all people use SJW for?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:12 am (UTC)(link)
da

Basically, yeah. There's legitimate criticism to be made about ridiculous and outlandish social justice keyboard warriors, but most of the rime it's just people saying sjw over and over.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 07:34 am (UTC)(link)
Jesus, just keep watching instead of jumping to SJW conclusions. There's more of the story to come.