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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-27 06:52 pm

[ SECRET POST #2641 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2641 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
Oh you're asking what areas that aren't the US or Europe have problems discriminating against darker skinned people?

Latin America
Africa
Asia (especially India comes to mind, as well as between South-east Asians and lighter skinned East Asians)
Australia

...hmm, is that list all? Yes, even in non-white majority countries there is still a problem. Where you blame white colonialism or whatever, you can't pretend this isn't a problem. Unless you are honestly ignorant? Okay?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
This comment would make more sense if you weren't lumping Latin America as if it was homogeneous group of countries with the same discriminatory issues.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:11 am (UTC)(link)
This. Argentinians are white.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
Friend of mine was Cuban. Was definitely paler than me. Latin America is not a homogenous Borg-society.
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2014-03-28 02:12 am (UTC)(link)
This shit again? Not everybody in Argentina is white ffs.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
No, just a mere 97% is...
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2014-03-28 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
Based on what? A faulty censo that was taken 10 years ago? That said 97% may be of European descent - which btw doesn't mean White European only? In a country that is known for trying to pretend is the whitest of latin america?

I fucking live here, I can assure you. 97% of Buenos Aires alone is not white or even white passing, much less Argentina as a whole.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt

Except the point was that there are racial problems based on color throughout Latin America. I was referring to, I thought obviously, entire areas of the world to demonstrate that color-based racism is a problem worldwide.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
(ayrt)
It's not as simple as that, though.

Depending on which part of Latin American (including different parts in the same country) the races represented in the population can vary greatly and so do the issues.

You are, for example, talking about color-based racism, which imply the population with darker skin is the one discriminates the most.

In my country? The ones that are discriminated most isn't the black population, but the natives, which aren't an homogeneous group either, nor culture wise or skin color wise.


I'll stop here because this is not a discussion I want to have on FS (for several reasons) and I'm too tired to be coherent, but really, I do get what's the point you wanted to make, but there are times when generalizing is not a good idea.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-28 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
lol I never said there weren't any problems. My point is that the narrow definition of dark skin tone that usually gets thrown around isn't an indicator of inequality in a lot of places. Anti-blackness, of course, but taking the secret as an example, most of the people in the scene from the show were probably middle class and that's the median tone for that country so no, you don't get to say that any dark skin tends to lead to inequality everywhere.

Racism isn't the same in western and eastern Asia or Africa either. It's not that the west hasn't had its hand in creating problems but many, MANY of those cultures came up with their own prejudices against much darker skin tones (usually that it signaled someone of a lower class because they worked under the sun more) away from white supremacy so not everyone's going to be, or HAS to be as concerned about a show that doesn't pertain to their experience as much as you think it does.