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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-28 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #2642 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2642 ⌋

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[Homestuck]


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[Michelle Lee]


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[Ping Pong the Animation]


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[Lord of the Rings]


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14. [SPOILERS for Pandora Hearts]



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15. [WARNING for sexual/emotional abuse]
















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(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, but the problem is we live in a society that tends to place the entire blame on the victim while completely ignoring the actions of the bag of dicks that hurt the victim. "oh well hurf durf she walked home late at night, what was the idiot expecting? XD" is a fucking wretched mindset completely bereft of any empathy and it's disappointing to see it be so prevalent. What you're doing is not helping combat this issue.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:30 am (UTC)(link)
The person who hurts the victim bears all the moral responsibility. They're the only one who did something morally wrong. But that doesn't mean the victim didn't make mistakes.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
Of course, but it's not like society needs a reminder that victims share responsibility when it seems to put all the blame on them already.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
Obviously society DOES need a reminder that victims share responsibility otherwise these girls wouldn't have GONE TO HIS HOUSE TO STAY THERE FOR SEVERAL DAYS.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah sure, reminding people it's their fault if they face sexual assault will surely stop people (especially teenagers) from making foolish decisions.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
We have bears where I live. We have rules about how to store trash so it doesn't attract bears. Every few years someone doesn't do what they're supposed to and a bear will wander into our neighborhood. Sometimes the bear kills a dog that's outside, sometimes it just scares us all half to death and then animal control lures it away. And then no one neglects to do what they're supposed to with their trash for the next few years.

Real life examples of consequences are proven to discourage people from making decisions that lead to them. Even sexual assault.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 08:26 am (UTC)(link)
Being all "IF YOU GET ATTACKED, IT'S YOUR FAULT" is still not the way to fucking inform people to be on their guard, dickhead. Plenty of people get attacked or sexually assaulted by doing nothing to bring it upon themselves. Fuck, doing something as mundane as grocery shopping can result in sexual assault, whose fucking fault is it then?

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
not PP but CONTEXT!
People get attacked by bears while harmlessly taking a walk in the forest. Nobody tells them it's their fault. But if people ... dunno ... camp out and leave food lying around and a bear attacks them, well ...
BUT nobody would speak of victim blaming here, right? because you just can't go point a finger at a bear and say OMG you evil!
Saying the victim is partially responsible does not relativize the deed, but it does have an educational effect.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 03:11 pm (UTC)(link)
...I'm not sure that's the case, or else harsh sentencing would be more of a deterrent to people committing crimes.

I suppose I don't think there's any utilitarian purpose to pointing out that someone making less stupid decisions wouldn't have been victimized in these particular cases, I just object to people denying the blindingly obvious. Like, don't rub it in with the victims, just get them help, and don't use it to excuse the offenders, just punish them, but by all means tell other people "Don't do these stupid things."

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 10:29 pm (UTC)(link)
The point is: men aren't bears. They are supposedly sentient. And shouldn't be kissing 14 year olds no matter where they are.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 02:46 am (UTC)(link)
The fact of the matter is, if you put yourself in a dangerous situation, the danger is probably going to affect you.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 05:28 am (UTC)(link)
If you get in a car, you better not expect medical treatment when you inevitably crash. after all, you put yourself in a dangerous situation.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 06:26 am (UTC)(link)
NAYRT. No, it's more like if you get in a car and drive drunk (or other stupid behaviour), then don't be surprised if you crash. Or get arrested. Or other negative consequence.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 06:30 am (UTC)(link)
Bad scenario. Since most likely it will be your own car you will be putting yourself into with a laid out plan of where you are going to go.

A scenario that actually works would be using a stranger's car that is stick shift when you only know automatic and then driving it without insurance. And when you see the stranger's car is starting to smoke you keep on driving.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
And why should it be a dangerous situation? A 14 year-old girl should be able to go anywhere without being assaulted. In a civilized society. The dangerous situation is created in the criminal's mind.