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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-29 03:59 pm

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Re: Classism in fandom

(Anonymous) 2014-03-29 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Can't it be all of the above? It's exciting to get new stuff, and people often compare and talk about what they got for birthdays/Christmas. It's a bit juvenile, but I can't see the problem.

And I get nothing *exciting) for Christmas. Not because I'm poor, or don't celebrate just because my parents believe in giving us razors, toothbrushes and "necessities" so we can use our extra money to buy things we like, and my siblings are college students who can't afford to buy presents. It's no big deal. I still kind of enjoy reading other people's hauls, though.
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Re: Classism in fandom

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
This. There is a balance between the "freegans" discussed upthread, and the "Let me show you ALL THE THINGS I GOT" materialistic mentality.

Which, IMO, kids should get cut some slack for...after all, they probably don't have any concept of money yet, outside of "pieces of paper my family gives me that I can exchange at the mall for ALL THE STUFF" which, to be fair, is common among kids.

TL;DR: I agree with stella_down, but I would be more inclined to give a pass to a little kid doing this.
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Re: Classism in fandom

[personal profile] making_excuses 2014-03-30 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Coming from someone definitely not rich, I sometimes do tell what I got for Christmas or my birthday, but that is also the only two occasions I usually ever get stuff.

I don't get the feeling of entitlement and such when people make a thread or a personal blog post about what they got for Christmas/their birthday as long as it isn't to complain about the stuff they got. Because I do so too (well not make threads), I just want to share my joy for the stuff I got and in turn be happy about what other people got.

I do understand where you are coming from and I know how bad it is to listen to people talk about the things they get to do because they have more money and they don't even appreciate it. Complaining about things that are given to you is something I don't understand at all.

What hits me most is:
In Norway we all have a confirmation at 15 either in church or through the agnostic/atheist foundation and we get money and such from our family because we are now "adults". The amount of people complaining because they only got 4000-6000$ and such is awful to hear. Because I am pretty sure my mother almost bankrupted herself to give me the 500$ or so she gave me. Same with the rest of my family members, they all gave more than what they should have and I didn't even get close to the amount people actually complain about, even if my family is a lot larger than most.

I am not as poor as some people and I do live in a place where people in general have more money than most of the world so I don't think Christmas hit us as hard, but I do remember celebrating Christmas with a church group as a child because my mother couldn't afford to make Christmas for us at home. But I have always been lucky with getting pretty good gifts, because my family does somehow always manage to pull the money together.

sorry this got a bit away from me... I don't even remember what my original point was
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Re: Classism in fandom

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-03-30 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
I get your point, and yeah, the disparities in perspective make me cringe at times. I got so excited over getting a whole $250 for Christmas, but I also know that for many of the people at my school, if I said as much, they would be confused as to why I was so happy about getting 'only' that much. >.<

Perhaps even more depressingly hilariously, during a high school government class in which a teacher was discussing the perks of living in the White House if you're the President. At one point, he mentioned servants, and most of us - either actually middle/lower class or at least strongly identifying with it more than upper class - started descending into sarcastic slave jokes, except for this one kid who looked really fucking confused and who was also the only kid in the class whose family had a maid. He didn't seem to get that most of the kids in the class were more likely to know or be related to maids than actually have maids, and thus a lot of his humor about his home life went right over people's heads or was honestly offensive or just not funny. -_-

My high school was a...very diverse one, class-wise.

Re: Classism in fandom

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
"Haul" posts are embarrassing. Enthusiastic posts about one or two things can be really sweet. But oh god, I never want to see another haul list again.

Re: Classism in fandom

(Anonymous) 2014-03-30 02:53 am (UTC)(link)
When they compare it to other years, all I can think of is Dudley Dursley at the start of Philosopher's Stone.
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Re: Classism in fandom

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2014-03-30 06:32 am (UTC)(link)
OMG I'M NOT THE ONLY ONE